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#21 Clancy

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 16:05

Extremely well done! Many thanks Daniel, for your efforts that the rest of might enjoy the fruits of your engaging research. Fascinating stuff!

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 17:21

Good example of demonstrating that most ideas evolve instead of springing fully developed into complete form.

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 02:52

I just read the Featherweight vs Lightweight article you did. Another great read!

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Posted 12 March 2013 - 16:27

I just read the Featherweight vs Lightweight article you did. Another great read!

Thank you very much! For those that missed it, here's a link to the "Featherweight vs. Heavyweight" article.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:53

thanks for sharing :thumbup:


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 16:33

Just thought I'd re-start this on. Came across this lovely pen. I believe it is a tele-dial model from reading the above. It has a desk taper as distinct from the dialer. It is threaded for the cap unlike the pure desk model. I believe the pens were sold with both dialer and taper. Beautiful writer with a smooth fine 5-30 nib. Measures 7.25 inches capped.

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 17:33

Just thought I'd re-start this on. Came across this lovely pen. I believe it is a tele-dial model from reading the above.

 

Not sure what you're referring to; the article concludes that there are no Sheaffer telephone dialer models. Can you clarify?

 

Your pen looks like a 5-30TCD. It was not sold with a "dialer" (as noted, there is no evidence for such a thing). It had a small end cap to make it a typical Balance-shaped pocket pen and a quill to convert it into a desk pen (as yours currently bears).

 

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 20:08

Just thought I'd re-start this on. Came across this lovely pen. I believe it is a tele-dial model from reading the above. It has a desk taper as distinct from the dialer. It is threaded for the cap unlike the pure desk model. I believe the pens were sold with both dialer and taper. Beautiful writer with a smooth fine 5-30 nib. Measures 7.25 inches capped.

 

it was presented so in 1930:

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Here an example with its butt cap... and quill which has suffered many hardships.

 

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Edited by Lazard 20, 16 October 2015 - 20:19.


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Posted 16 October 2015 - 20:20

Note that the cap on this pen is a little later, based on the clip style.

 

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Posted 16 October 2015 - 21:21

Note that the cap on this pen is a little later, based on the clip style.

 

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Please note that my date refered correspond to how was presented in (June) 1930 Sheaffer´S catalog this model (not to material example from my collection that I present today here, much later from 1930).

 

But since your precise this other point and knowing its arc-top clip of my material example, outer lever pin (not inner ring lever), solid lever (not in "U") and "PATENTED" imprint perhaps you could to define more preciselly, and better than "a little later", its time.

Edited by Lazard 20, 16 October 2015 - 22:48.


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 01:58

 

 

Please note that my date refered correspond to how was presented in (June) 1930 Sheaffer´S catalog this model (not to material example from my collection that I present today here, much later from 1930).

 

But since your precise this other point and knowing its arc-top clip of my material example, outer lever pin (not inner ring lever), solid lever (not in "U") and "PATENTED" imprint perhaps you could to define more preciselly, and better than "a little later", its time.

 

I suspect a more precise answer than 'a little later' is possible.


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 08:45

Thank you for all the input. I would like to source a butt then, though I guess this will be near impossible.

 

I note my cap does not have a white dot either, maybe this also indicates a later example.



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Posted 17 October 2015 - 09:30

I note my cap does not have a white dot either, maybe this also indicates a later example.

 

In this particular case that mount WD or not, Lifetime or 5-30 nib, doesn´t indicate temporality with others first Balance. This fountain pen is so, this is normal, 5-30TCD model ($5.00 + quill) don´t have Lifetime guarantee so don´t have WD on contrary that 74TCD model ($8.25 + quill).

Edited by Lazard 20, 17 October 2015 - 09:40.


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Posted 17 October 2015 - 20:59

I suspect a more precise answer than 'a little later' is possible.

 

The peaked arch-top clip style appears on some models by mid-1930 (and possible as early as the beginning of that year), but it likely didn't make it to the cap type seen here until the spring of '31.

 

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