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Stub O' The Day


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#1561 dms525

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Posted 25 June 2020 - 22:06

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Another one that comes to mind but isn't inked at the moment is the Parker 75 fine italic nib. Most pens with stub or italic nibs I have bought have required custom grinding, either because they are too broad for my use or not crisp enough. But these have been terrific right out of the box.

 

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#1562 tinta

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Posted 26 June 2020 - 04:43

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Another one that comes to mind but isn't inked at the moment is the Parker 75 fine italic nib. Most pens with stub or italic nibs I have bought have required custom grinding, either because they are too broad for my use or not crisp enough. But these have been terrific right out of the box.

 

David

Those indeed are stubs of the day.  I really do enjoy this fascinating thread,  with very long legs.  May it continue to wander.  Thanks.


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#1563 dms525

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Posted 27 June 2020 - 17:18

I took this photo this morning to answer a member's question about OMAS 360 nib size. I thought the readers of this forum might like some Saturday pen porn. All these nibs have been custom-ground to crisp cursive italic.

 

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Left to right: Full size 360, Ogiva, old-style Paragon

 

Happy writing!

 

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 00:41

This Franklin-Christoph came with an EF nib, and I bought it a 1.1mm cursive calligraphy steel nib.

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 08:53

Posted this to the "Welcome To The Broad Side" thread already but since this is a stub I think it fits here too. ;) Behold, a vintage Kaweco Sport V12. Marked nib size is B but it is more like a stubby BB if you, for example, compare it to vintage Pelikan nibs. Awesome fun in small package and a piston filler to boot. <3

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Posted 08 July 2020 - 18:16

I took this photo this morning to answer a member's question about OMAS 360 nib size. I thought the readers of this forum might like some Saturday pen porn. All these nibs have been custom-ground to crisp cursive italic.

 

 
Left to right: Full size 360, Ogiva, old-style Paragon

 

Happy writing!

 

David

Great stuff David!!!

 

This Franklin-Christoph came with an EF nib, and I bought it a 1.1mm cursive calligraphy steel nib.

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That's an ideal way to fix a pen with a tiny nib - well done!

 

Posted this to the "Welcome To The Broad Side" thread already but since this is a stub I think it fits here too. ;) Behold, a vintage Kaweco Sport V12. Marked nib size is B but it is more like a stubby BB if you, for example, compare it to vintage Pelikan nibs. Awesome fun in small package and a piston filler to boot. <3

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I have always been a big fan of vintage Kawecos, especially the Sport model, and to find one with that nib is fantastic.  Enjoy!
 


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Posted 11 July 2020 - 00:49

Leonardo stubs compare .jpg

 

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The Girasole had a narrower "Stub 1.1" nib than any of my other Leonardo pens. It is about a 0.8 mm stub, really. I'm not complaining; it writes beautifully, and the narrower width is actually better for an edc pen for me.

 

Both the vendor and maker deny having adjusted the nib, so it must have come from Bock like this. I thought I'd share.

 

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Posted 11 July 2020 - 01:45

attachicon.gif Leonardo stubs compare .jpg

 

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The Girasole had a narrower "Stub 1.1" nib than any of my other Leonardo pens. It is about a 0.8 mm stub, really. I'm not complaining; it writes beautifully, and the narrower width is actually better for an edc pen for me.

 

Both the vendor and maker deny having adjusted the nib, so it must have come from Bock like this. I thought I'd share.

 

David

Thanks for sharing, David....interesting about nib.....

 

Sometimes you just get lucky I guess..

 

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Posted 12 July 2020 - 20:03

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Posted 31 July 2020 - 06:34

While my brother was visiting, I searched the Franklin-Christoph website to show my F-C Omnis was in stock. However I saw an Omnis in Italian Ice. We both ended up ordering one with broad SIG (Stub Italic Gradient) nibs.

Here is the pen and some writing.

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Posted 12 August 2020 - 17:27

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This was literally my Stub of the day. I finally got around to filling my new PenBBS 355 yesterday, with Diamine Jalur Gemilang ink which I think is a perfect match for the 'Purple Cloud' acrylic, but I never intended to use it with the two-toned F nib that came fitted on account of how broad and round the tipping is. I had a handful of replacement nib units with Nemosine (EF, F, 0.6 Stub and 0.8 Stub) nibs already made up from before and sitting ready, and had used them on my PenBBS 308 and 309 pens in the past. I decided I mightn't want too fine a line, given how Diamine Jalur Gemilang both shades and sheens so well, so I thought I might give the Nemosine F nib a try. However, I didn't really like how wet and plump the lines that came out of it looked, and given I've been on a DIY nib regrinding kick lately, I went straight to working on the nib instead of trying one of the Nemosine Stub nibs with the pen.

 

After a not insignificant amount of time and effort, I finally got the nib to just about how I wanted it to be; its writing output is show above. Right around then, my wife told me it was time to head out to our dinner booking, and because I expected to have to write our names and contact details down for the restaurant (because of COVID-19 related regulations in place), I thought it prudent to bring a pen, and the PenBBS 355 was sitting right there...

 

So I capped it, got changed, and grabbed the pen from the table on my way out the door. At that point, I noticed that the cap was somehow loose instead of screwed on properly, so I tightened it being shoving it into my pocket. I encountered a dull, unexpected bit of physical resistance as I did that, which I thought was from the movement of an inner cap that needed breaking in, and didn't think any more of it until my wife and I were seated (outdoors) at the restaurant, and I fished my pen out to write our details down in the gloom.

 

The pen wouldn't write.

 

In the dim light, I could see that nib was bent, but it wasn't clear exactly how (and how badly). Damn.

 

I've checked the replacement nibs for headroom in the clear and translucent PenBBS 308 and 309 pens I had, but I made the stupid, inexcusable and downright embarrassing rookie mistake of not also checking the PenBBS 355 (which isn't quite that see-through) and just assumed it'd fit.

 

It didn't.

 

When I got home, I could see that the tines were very badly bent, more sideways than forward over the feed. There is no inner cap inside the pen cap, but there is a piece of metal. I have no idea it was there, and I no idea why it is there; I looked inside the other PenBBS 355 pen I have here belatedly, and there is only plastic and no metal in the same place in its cap. You can see from the photo above where the tipping of my DIY Stub nib has scored the surface of that piece of metal as I screwed the cap on and 'heard', or sensed, the dull crunch earlier.

 

So, that's that.


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Posted 12 August 2020 - 20:46

Stubs are fascinating to me, especially when it comes to the line variation-but they are so intimating for me.  


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Posted Yesterday, 03:37

Stubs are fascinating to me, especially when it comes to the line variation-but they are so intimating for me.  

Hi,

 

well, I think I observed something similar!?

 

Can a nib be too expressive?

A stub or even more CI/italic can have a lot of intrinsic character overlapping your writing style.

What is the optimum to make the handwriting nicer, but giving enorgh freedom to modify line variation. Flex helps here much imo...

 

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Posted Yesterday, 08:28

Go for it @Rosendust! These nibs are friendly. It might be a little different at first to write with, but after that it is as easy as writing with a F M or B nib.

I love italic and stub nibs.

People here will give advice if you want it. :-)

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Posted Yesterday, 08:42

These nibs are friendly. It might be a little different at first to write with, but after that it is as easy as writing with a F M or B nib.

 

That's the thing: Italic nibs (especially ones that may be categorised as 'unforgiving' by some) tell me, in the privacy of my own writing space, what I'm physically doing 'wrong' when trying to write with 'expressiveness'. Rotating the nib's orientation or changing the angle of the contact surface, without deliberate intent on my part to product particular shapes or writing outcomes, is not 'expressiveness' in my book, but a failure to express my belief in discipline while still writing consistent in my personal style.


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Posted Yesterday, 19:03

I love stubs.

 

Stubs for ever - without a stub my writing really suffers!

 

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Posted Yesterday, 19:20

I love stubs.

 

Stubs for ever - without a stub my writing really suffers!

 

Cob

 

 

Just the opposite, I really struggle with a stub but at least I know why.

 

I suspect Cob, that you write very correctly with the pen  square to the page, I have two faults,, the first is that my pen angle comes in from the side and also that I tend to rotate the pen twixt finger and thumb, I can almost mange a stub but an italic turns into a famer's plough which can even rip through  thinner papers such as Tomoe River when used on a leather topped desk.

 

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Posted Yesterday, 22:24

...

What is the optimum to make the handwriting nicer, but giving enorgh freedom to modify line variation. Flex helps here much imo...

 

Best wishes

Jens

Hi,

 

well, I think i got misunderstoud... 

I have some pens with stub / cursive italic even oblique ci nibs most with additional flex.

I like and use them a lot.

Indeed they make my writing look nicer, as Cob said.

 

Best

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