Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies






Photo

Stub O' The Day


1305 replies to this topic

#21 Bo Bo Olson

Bo Bo Olson

    Ancient Artifact

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,916 posts
  • Location:Germany

Posted 24 January 2013 - 22:29

Sigh.... :headsmack:
I only have one stub, '36 Canadian Parker BB stub nib on '38-9 Vac.

Living in Germany I chased semi-flex and 'flexi' pre'66 Obliques.

dcpritch
Thanks for opening my eyes a bit on stubs and that they made stubs with some flex. One can learn wallet abusing things here. :roflmho:
You have some very pretty pens there.
That Bexley is a grand pen. :thumbup:

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany      Info on Bock nibs

 

Due to Mauricio's improved definition of Super-flex, I try not use the term Easy Full Flex, but fail...sigh.

 

Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing with a touch of flair. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For bit more of that get a maxi-semi-flex. Both spread tines 3X.  Those are not "Flex" nibs. 

 

Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens and inks only; not the users or inks of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.


Sponsored Content

#22 pajaro

pajaro

    Amblin along like I had good sense.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,654 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 24 January 2013 - 22:37

The Strand and the Bexley are such beautiful pens, and the nibs are divine. I also love stubs, but only have Parker 51 and Esterbrook stubs, and the Estie relief stubs are hard to use sometimes. They are sharper than the Estie 2312 italic I am using today.

"Don't hurry, don't worry. It's better to be late at the Golden Gate than to arrive in Hell on time."
--Sign in a bar and grill, Ormond Beach, Florida, 1960.

 

They took the blue from the skies and the pretty girls' eyes and a touch of Old Glory too . . .


#23 peterpen53

peterpen53

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 551 posts
  • Location:Near the western shore
  • Flag:

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:00

Great show, David! As you know, stubs are a sight for my sore eyes.

It might interest you to know that the celluloid on your Strand
pen is similar to that which Sheaffer used on their Balance pen
in the 1930's--it was a red-veined,silver celluloid.


John


Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember Sheaffer using this type of celluloid (or a similar acrylic) for a modern special edition of the Balance pen, probably in the nineties(?).


Cheers,
Peter
May Your Force Be With You

If I mention a supplier, I am ONLY affiliated if I EXPLICITLY say so.

#24 dcpritch

dcpritch

    Uff da

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,866 posts
  • Location:Northern Minnesota

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:14

I only have one stub, '36 Canadian Parker BB stub nib on '38-9 Vac.


Well if you are going to have only one stub, that would certainly be a sweet one to own. Sounds like you and Penmanila, though on different sides of the globe, have some great nibs in common.

And I love your phrase, "wallet abusing things." Don't we know all to well what that means!
How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

#25 reprieve

reprieve

    tightrope walker

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,943 posts
  • Location:just a little bird floating on a hurricane

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:19

This thread = :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

#26 dcpritch

dcpritch

    Uff da

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,866 posts
  • Location:Northern Minnesota

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:29

The Strand and the Bexley are such beautiful pens, and the nibs are divine. I also love stubs, but only have Parker 51 and Esterbrook stubs, and the Estie relief stubs are hard to use sometimes. They are sharper than the Estie 2312 italic I am using today.


Thanks so much, you and others are very generous with your appreciation.

I've read elsewhere about your fabulous 2312 nib and I'm sure you would attest that when an Estie nib is good, it is very good. I generally have a hard time with Estie relief nibs, though a particular 9314-B Relief Broad Stub is among my favorite Estie nibs. My primary Esterbrook nib is a 2284 that is not the prettiest thing, but oh-so-smooth, and then of the non-stub variety I have a 2668, 2968 and 9968 that I will use (the 2668 belonged to my grandmother); beyond that the Estie nibs I've tried leave me wanting something else.
How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

#27 dcpritch

dcpritch

    Uff da

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,866 posts
  • Location:Northern Minnesota

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:33

... the celluloid on your Strand pen is similar to that which Sheaffer used on their Balance pen
in the 1930's--it was a red-veined,silver celluloid.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember Sheaffer using this type of celluloid (or a similar acrylic) for a modern special edition of the Balance pen, probably in the nineties(?).


Hi Peter, I did a quick search and came up with this photo from a 2007 thread on Fountain Pen Community, showing the varieties of modern Sheaffer Balance pens. I don't see a match to the Strand Pen; perhaps John has a photo showing the material he mentioned?

Posted Image

ETA: these are some great looking Balance pens!!!

Edited by dcpritch, 24 January 2013 - 23:35.

How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

#28 Lszuk

Lszuk

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 134 posts
  • Location:USA
  • Flag:

Posted 24 January 2013 - 23:34

What a GREAT idea for a thread! The Bexley is beautiful and your script with the stub looks great. Looking forward to many many more posts on this thread.

#29 penmanila

penmanila

    Vacumaniac

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,218 posts
  • Location:Manila/San Diego
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:29

now that we've gotten all warmed up (many thanks to david), here are three more of my stubs, all double-broad. the targa and the MB 146 came to me this way; the duofold i stubbed from a factory BB that i replaced the original M nib with. they're all very smooth writers and are in my daily rotation. enjoy ;)

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

Posted Image

Check out my blog and my pens


#30 penmanila

penmanila

    Vacumaniac

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,218 posts
  • Location:Manila/San Diego
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:41

indeed i can't recall a modern remake of that particular pattern, either, at least not in the balance line. the closest pen to it would be the limited edition "fort madison" on the far left--pretty but notoriously brittle. i came close to picking one up at auction a month ago. kind of close, but not quite:

Posted Image



... the celluloid on your Strand pen is similar to that which Sheaffer used on their Balance pen
in the 1930's--it was a red-veined,silver celluloid.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember Sheaffer using this type of celluloid (or a similar acrylic) for a modern special edition of the Balance pen, probably in the nineties(?).


Hi Peter, I did a quick search and came up with this photo from a 2007 thread on Fountain Pen Community, showing the varieties of modern Sheaffer Balance pens. I don't see a match to the Strand Pen; perhaps John has a photo showing the material he mentioned?

Posted Image

ETA: these are some great looking Balance pens!!!


Check out my blog and my pens


#31 Frank C

Frank C

    Antique

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,295 posts
  • Location:Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 00:46

Beautiful pens and nice legible handwriting. I have a couple of stubs myself. Lately, I've been getting custom cursive italics. I don't find them to be any harder to write with and I prefer the greater line variation.
"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson "I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel
I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

#32 penmanila

penmanila

    Vacumaniac

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,218 posts
  • Location:Manila/San Diego
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 01:16

and here's a pelikan m1000's OB nib that i converted to a broad stub, smooth and springy:

Posted Image

Posted Image

Edited by penmanila, 25 January 2013 - 01:17.

Check out my blog and my pens


#33 sadiemagic

sadiemagic

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 574 posts
  • Location:Connecticut
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:18

Love this thread! I have several stubs too - a Sheaffer Targa in sterling, a Bexley Corona in summer storm, and a Stipula Passaporto LE Baltimore Blue Harbor - all factory stubs. And then my stub on my Nakaya Blue Dragon portable cigar, ground from a BB by John Mottishaw.

Love seeing these stubs! Keep 'em coming!
Not all those who wander are lost. J.R.R.Tolkien

#34 markiv

markiv

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 02:35

Another great thread where I can look forward to some beautiful pens with incredible nibs. I am so aware about your preference for stubs that if I see one I imagine how you would love to write with it. My preference lately has started to move towards fine flex tips but I don't mind the broad stub on my BHR Chilton at all.
Posted Image

#35 olivier78860

olivier78860

    Dura Flex, Sed Flex

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,433 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:45

Posted Image

Posted Image

Sometimes I wish I were right-handed.

Posted Image


#36 dcpritch

dcpritch

    Uff da

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,866 posts
  • Location:Northern Minnesota

Posted 25 January 2013 - 15:30

Love this thread! I have several stubs too - a Sheaffer Targa in sterling, a Bexley Corona in summer storm, and a Stipula Passaporto LE Baltimore Blue Harbor - all factory stubs. And then my stub on my Nakaya Blue Dragon portable cigar, ground from a BB by John Mottishaw.

Love seeing these stubs! Keep 'em coming!


I've found many of the modern factory stubs to be excellent writers straight out of the box, but there's something special about a broad nib that has been smoothed and customized by one of the masters. I'll be dragging out a Nakaya stub sometime soon, on a pen not nearly as pretty as a Blue Dragon, but a great nib nonetheless.

Another great thread where I can look forward to some beautiful pens with incredible nibs. I am so aware about your preference for stubs that if I see one I imagine how you would love to write with it. My preference lately has started to move towards fine flex tips but I don't mind the broad stub on my BHR Chilton at all.


Thanks Vik, and remember if you see a pen I would like please don't hesitate to let me know.
You make me think perhaps your Chilton stub nib would be more at home on one of my Chiltons, especially if it is being neglected as you move toward flex nibs. Wanna trade? :D


Sometimes I wish I were right-handed.


Olivier, with pens like that it looks like you are doing fantastic. Beauties!
How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

#37 dcpritch

dcpritch

    Uff da

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,866 posts
  • Location:Northern Minnesota

Posted 25 January 2013 - 16:14

Today we have a frankenpen of sorts. The nib was liberated from one pen, laid out on a workbench and remade into something only a mad scientist could conceive, then put into another pen of the same family. Transylvania would be proud. Take a look:

Sheaffer Saratoga

This nondescript, non-white dot Saratoga sports a Sheaffer #5 open nib from an Admiral that Nathan Tardiff modified to be a three tined music nib. For those who are new to pendom, Nathan had a short but brilliant career in pen repairs and nib work before he turned his attention to ink and created Noodler's Ink. He made quite a few unusual nibs and seemed to be limited only by his imagination, which appears to be boundless. The nib writes beautifully--not too wet, not scratchy at the edges, very nice line variation between the broad verticals and thin horizontals. It has never needed adjusting, as is common with three tine nibs. The Saratoga pen was made between 1952 and 1959 and was originally equipped with an open 14k gold nib with a platinum mask. Its snorkel filling system works marvelously.

Pictures tell the story better than words:

(Out of production Sheaffer Kings Gold ink used here)
fpn_1359127897__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif


Pretty hum-drum, don't you think? But then look what's under the hood!
fpn_1359129153__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif
fpn_1359129001__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif
fpn_1359129182__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif

It really makes some sweet lines:
fpn_1359130210__img_2634_1024x397.jpg


Here's the back side, sorry about the lousy photo.

fpn_1359129225__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif

I love pen clips and imprints:
fpn_1359129251__sheaffer_saratoga_tardif


How small of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.

— Samuel Johnson

#38 ethernautrix

ethernautrix

    Be the Pen Posse you want to see in the world.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 11,475 posts
  • Location:Land of Po

Posted 25 January 2013 - 18:25

Hm... I need to call a Pen Posse Stub (Bring Yer Stubs!). These are lovely -- and the photographs, too! Nice work, David!

The King's Gold ink is pretty, too.

_________________

etherX in To Miasto

Fleekair <--French accent.


#39 peterpen53

peterpen53

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 551 posts
  • Location:Near the western shore
  • Flag:

Posted 25 January 2013 - 22:00

... the celluloid on your Strand pen is similar to that which Sheaffer used on their Balance pen
in the 1930's--it was a red-veined,silver celluloid.


Correct me if I'm wrong but I seem to remember Sheaffer using this type of celluloid (or a similar acrylic) for a modern special edition of the Balance pen, probably in the nineties(?).


Hi Peter, I did a quick search and came up with this photo from a 2007 thread on Fountain Pen Community, showing the varieties of modern Sheaffer Balance pens. I don't see a match to the Strand Pen; perhaps John has a photo showing the material he mentioned?

Posted Image

ETA: these are some great looking Balance pens!!!


That picture is a great find, David. As penmanila already suggested, I did mean the 1997 LE on the extreme left. I agree the colours are off compared to your Strand pen, but to my, arguably imperfect, memory it made a similar impression. And I'm not a Sheaffer expert by any stretch of the imagination.
I sure hope we can keep this thread going, I'm really enjoying it.




May Your Force Be With You

If I mention a supplier, I am ONLY affiliated if I EXPLICITLY say so.

#40 markiv

markiv

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 878 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 26 January 2013 - 14:46

Posted Image

The Swan Visofil is quite nice and relatively rare. I want one but have not found a specimen to my liking. Does it have the screw type filler?


Another great thread where I can look forward to some beautiful pens with incredible nibs. I am so aware about your preference for stubs that if I see one I imagine how you would love to write with it. My preference lately has started to move towards fine flex tips but I don't mind the broad stub on my BHR Chilton at all.


Thanks Vik, and remember if you see a pen I would like please don't hesitate to let me know.
You make me think perhaps your Chilton stub nib would be more at home on one of my Chiltons, especially if it is being neglected as you move toward flex nibs. Wanna trade? :D

That Chilton is a cherished pen (you can see the nib on my signature below) but sure I can fancy a trade given your nice collection :D

Posted Image

Nice - these don't come by often! It looks massive akin to a hammerhead's snout.
Posted Image



Reply to this topic



  




Sponsored Content




|