St. Dupont

[RMN]

I have by now many pens from many brands, but sofar no St Dupont. One of the things keeping me is the fact most of them have metal sections which I dislike.

 

Last year I held a Defi, and I must say I liked the design and balance.

 

And it is reasonably priced. So I am considering buying one.

 

Now my regular B&M shop offers a F and M nib.

 

My question is: are there specialist nibs from St Dupont themselves (stub or cursive italic), or do I have to go to a nibmeister. And if so, is the blob on the nib generous, so the nibmeister will have something to work with?

 

What are your experiences?

 

 

D.ick

[82Greg]

All the ST Dupont's that I have came with either a Fine or Medium nib. I don't believe there are any specialty nibs (oblique, italic, stub, music, etc). The nibs are exceptionally smooth. You may be able to talk to the local distributor to see what other nibs are available. If you read the S.T. Dupont website, most of the fountain pens are listed with EF, F, M or B nibs.

 

Although many do have metallic sections, my old style Olympio (out of production) is coated with Chinese lacquer.

 

 

Many are Dupont nibs are available on EBay.

[jar]

I can't address the most recent offerings from ST Dupont but I have factory EF, F, M, B, Stub nibs.All seem to have lost of tipping. Not all metal sections are the same.

[o2bmark]

I have a defi medium point and I just looked at it under 4x and the tipping seems about average, wrapping over the steel part with equal amount of tipping on top. I would think it could be stubbed. Amateur opinion mind you.

[Jeremiah]

Another quick suggestion regarding metal sections (I apologize for the digression)...A reasonably priced Dupont that does not have the metal section is the Ellipsis. If you look hard enough, you could probably find one under $200.00 USD (I got mine for $135.00).

[RMN]

Another quick suggestion regarding metal sections (I apologize for the digression)...A reasonably priced Dupont that does not have the metal section is the Ellipsis. If you look hard enough, you could probably find one under $200.00 USD (I got mine for $135.00).

Ellipsis is not a current model, is it? The pics I saw remind met of the Dunhill AD2000, which is also one of the pens I would like to own..

 

D.ick

[olivier78860]

I think my favourite shop keeper told me the Elysée only comes in F or M, as for the Défi.

 

But if you have a look at my review of the Elysée (here), mine came with a stubbish M nib that can write on both sides, the upper side being close to a F.

 

Last but not least, if chinese lacquer is important to you, I recommend to look for the laser-engraved leaf symbol at the end of the barrel. The entry-level (plain lacquer on cap and barrel) Elysee have synthetic lacquer, the more expensive ones (palladium plated cap and lacquered barrel)have chinese lacquer.

 

I don't know about the Olympio, but I know the Fidélio and the Montparnasse XL have a wider selection : EF to B, and they still have spare nib units at the factory for the Montparnasse (so they should for the Fidélio), which sell for 80€, and then have it reground by a nibmeister.

Edited January 14, 2013 by olivier78860

[English John]

The Olympio's are lovely pens , and they don't all have metal sections.

Look at my pens in the classified section.

In my opinion , they are some of the smoothest nibs you will ever find. Every medium nibbed Dupont I have used has been smooth and ultra reliable - no hard starting. There looks to be plenty of tipping to work with.

I have an old Elipsis , which does have a metal section , and it is great to write with.

The Fidelio is a smaller pen with a smaller gripping section and smaller nib, but still have the Dupont feel - built to last.

 

You cannot go wrong with one , unless you want flexy nibs

Edited January 14, 2013 by English John

[pelman]

Hello D.ick

 

Below are pictured an AD2000 and an Ellipsis. The AD has much steeper drop off from the barrel. It doesn't interfere with how I grip the pen. Both pens are lovely and have recently been in my rotation. I prefer the little stubbish flavor of the Dupont. I got the ellipsis for about 150 last year. I think it is one of the best pens I have. I would have preferred a little larger ink capacity but can't have everything. HTH

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[RMN]

Hello D.ick

 

Below are pictured an AD2000 and an Ellipsis. The AD has much steeper drop off from the barrel. It doesn't interfere with how I grip the pen. Both pens are lovely and have recently been in my rotation. I prefer the little stubbish flavor of the Dupont. I got the ellipsis for about 150 last year. I think it is one of the best pens I have. I would have preferred a little larger ink capacity but can't have everything. HTH

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n549/pelmanyaar/0F6A6968-0B29-4AF5-8A9D-BCD0BEBB8137-14509-000012F5B7352507.jpg

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Those are two beauties. I think I am a bit jealous now...

 

I waited too long last year to pull the trigger on a silver AD2000. I regret this now.

 

But indeed the steep step might be annoying, I am not fond of them.

 

And I think I will look for an Ellipsis somewhere, is my kind of shape.

 

 

D.ick

[pelman]

Those are two beauties. I think I am a bit jealous now...

 

I waited too long last year to pull the trigger on a silver AD2000. I regret this now.

 

But indeed the steep step might be annoying, I am not fond of them.

 

And I think I will look for an Ellipsis somewhere, is my kind of shape.

 

 

D.ick

 

Thank you. The Silver AD2000 is indeed gorgeous. My AD2000 has almost a rubbery spongy feel to it and is actually quite warm to touch. It also has a somewhat raden like effect with sparkly bits. Sorry I have searched and searched and still don't know how this effect takes place and maybe someone else can chime in.

 

The Ellipsis is very comfortable to hold and can be posted or used unposted. I usually use it unposted because it is a fairly large pen. I did try a couple of Olympios in the store and I am happy I purchased the Ellipsis. The Ellipsis comes in the gold plated version as I have and an all black plastic version.

 

As far as the nibs are concerned. The Dupont nib is ridiculously smooth and just will glide over anything. The AD has the Namiki/Pilot nib and has a touch of feedback. Still a fantastic nib IMO.

 

Good luck with your quest.

[jar]

 

Those are two beauties. I think I am a bit jealous now...

 

I waited too long last year to pull the trigger on a silver AD2000. I regret this now.

 

But indeed the steep step might be annoying, I am not fond of them.

 

And I think I will look for an Ellipsis somewhere, is my kind of shape.

 

 

D.ick

 

The Ellipsis was the first of the ST Dupont models to switch from the Parker standard cartridge/converter to the International standard. It came in both metal and resin bodies and while the metal bodied models are quite heavy, the resin model are super light.

 

They are a large pen as you can see in this size comparison.

 

http://www.fototime.com/91CA42227680013/medium800.jpg

[SLMP]

Can anyone tell me about the S. T. Dupont Liberte pen with fine nib? I am considering purchasing one but would like to have some imput from someone who already owns one. Thanks!

[jar]

Can anyone tell me about the S. T. Dupont Liberte pen with fine nib? I am considering purchasing one but would like to have some imput from someone who already owns one. Thanks!

 

It's a nice small pen designed for a woman's hand. All of the ST Dupont pens I have have been totally reliable with a smooth nib.

[dahraf77]

I have a Liberte with a fine nib, and I love it. JAR is correct that it is designed for women, but I personally don't think that it is really a small pen (it is about the same size as a Waterman Carene). The thing that makes it small is that the end of the pen tapers as you go up from the section, but if you put the cap on the pen then it is a nice handful. Also the pen is a snap on cap...Classic ST Dupont.

 

The nib is super smooth, and a real joy to write with. The only thing is when I got my pen there was no included converter, but I got one, and it is a nice addition to my stable of pens.

 

If you have any more questions or want picture please let me know.

 

Thanks,

dahraf77

[SLMP]

I would really appreciate receiving a picture. Can you tell me how much I should expect to pay for this pen and where did you locate your converter?

 

Thanks ever so much!!

 

 

I have a Liberte with a fine nib, and I love it. JAR is correct that it is designed for women, but I personally don't think that it is really a small pen (it is about the same size as a Waterman Carene). The thing that makes it small is that the end of the pen tapers as you go up from the section, but if you put the cap on the pen then it is a nice handful. Also the pen is a snap on cap...Classic ST Dupont.

 

The nib is super smooth, and a real joy to write with. The only thing is when I got my pen there was no included converter, but I got one, and it is a nice addition to my stable of pens.

 

If you have any more questions or want picture please let me know.

 

Thanks,

dahraf77

[dahraf77]

I would really appreciate receiving a picture. Can you tell me how much I should expect to pay for this pen and where did you locate your converter?

 

Thanks ever so much!!

 

I received the pen as a gift, but I believe that it was purchased for about $550 (I did have some input in choosing the pen). I purchased the converter from Colorado Pen Direct (not affiliated just a happy customer).

 

 

ST Dupont Liberte

 

Edison Collier, ST Dupont Liberete, Waterman Carene

Edison Collier, ST Dupont Liberete, Waterman Carene

 

 

I hope these pictures helps

[SLMP]

The picture is great and I thank you very much for all your input and information!!

[ulmensis]

Hi there!

 

I just found an St. Dupont Ellipsis as NOS for around USD 170 which has a black resin body and a 18K fine nib.

As I have no St. Dupont pens until now I'm always interested in them, but not sure an old model such as Ellipsis is worth for money.

 

Could anybody give me suggestions?

 

Thanks a lot!

[jar]

The Ellipsis was the first of the ST Dupont pens to switch from the Parker standard cartridge/converter to the international standard. It's a big pen but the resin version is also a very light pen. The cap has the classic Dupont self centering almost mystical feel when capping or uncapping and the clip is spring loaded. It writes like a typical ST Dupont, smooth and super reliable, loves any ink I've ever tried in mine.

 

Two caveats to consider. One is the step down from body to section. Depending on the size of your hand that may or may not be an issue. Second, the Ellipsis does not post as deeply or securely as the Orpheo/Olympio/Fidelio models.

 

http://www.fototime.com/DF24B651F076B5A/medium800.jpg

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