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Poll: Lowercase cursive "r" (505 member(s) have cast votes)

How do you write your cursive lowercase "r"? (please see picture)

  1. 1. Upright stroke followed by a small "hook". (145 votes [26.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.85%

  2. 2. Slanted upstroke, then a gentle slide downwards, followed by a steep curve downwards. (343 votes [63.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 63.52%

  3. 3. I always capitalize the "R" (even within lowercase text). (7 votes [1.30%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.30%

  4. 4. Some other way (feel free to specify below). (41 votes [7.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.59%

  5. 5. I always skip the lowercase letter "r" when I write anything! (4 votes [0.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.74%

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#121 Empty_of_Clouds

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 09:21

Interesting little thread. I used to use #1 for every 'r' but lately I have been retraining myself to use the Spencerian or Alternative English versions.

 

Mind you, I am still a rank beginner, and as such don't know my 'r's from my elbow. shrug.gif


 

 


#122 Cepasaccus

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 11:18

I learned at school this script: https://de.wikipedia...atei:La-ges.jpg

My current r is normally not split at the top, but still normally the right hook is lower than the left hook.


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#123 Abner C. Kemp

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Posted 23 October 2014 - 04:56

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This is what my lowercase R's look like as well. Somewhat similar to #2 in the poll but without the drastic slant and with a bit of a dip at the stem. 


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#124 DaveBj

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Posted 06 November 2014 - 15:34

While I know they should look like the #2, when I get in a hurry, they usually turn out like little mounds......

I was taught #2 in primary school, and I've never had a reason to change, but this ^^^ is often my result as well.


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#125 Dimitri

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Posted 22 November 2014 - 19:54

I do #1 in print, #2 in cursive, but my "r" in cursive is more vertical like the symbol for "pi" then slanted like that.

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Posted 02 December 2014 - 22:15

Look at those of Bill Lilly; I find them, though made with an oblique pen holder and nib, to be most beautifully perfect.



#127 Ken Fraser

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 22:06

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Edited by Ken Fraser, 03 December 2014 - 22:21.


#128 Ken Fraser

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 22:07

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Edited by Ken Fraser, 03 December 2014 - 22:08.


#129 Ken Fraser

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Posted 03 December 2014 - 22:20

Look at those of Bill Lilly; I find them, though made with an oblique pen holder and nib, to be most beautifully perfect.

 

I know that it's just a matter of opinion, but I much prefer 18th century English Roundhand  -

the epitome of elegance in handwriting.

 

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Edited by Ken Fraser, 03 December 2014 - 22:23.


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Posted 18 February 2015 - 15:17

They all have a special beauty, which charms us all differently. Thanks for your appreciated opine, Ken.

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 15:48

Mind you, I am still a rank beginner, and as such don't know my 'r's from my elbow. shrug.gif

 

I love me a little calligraphy humor!

 

 

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Posted 18 February 2015 - 23:05

James,

...as do I.

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 20:46

Here are five letters 'r' which are currently in fairly common use.

From left to right they are :-

English Roundhand (Copperplate)
Engrosser's Script
Spencerian Script
Italic
Alternative English Roundhand (Copperplate)

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Thank you! I've been struggling with the Copperplate certain and the alternate you've provided seems to help me!

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 22:42

Numbers 3 and 5, despite one's opinion of their aesthetic value, serve best when connecting letters in cursive.


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Posted 20 May 2015 - 20:01

Inflammatory comment follows:

#1 is the ONLY proper lower-case "r".
All the others are mere representations of an " r", intended for either aesthetic appeal or to facilitate cursive writing. I suspect that all children learn that #1 is an "r" when they are taught the alphabet.

The only people that I know to use the #2 "r" are the elderly (defined as older than me!) and calligraphers. In fact, I had forgotten about #2 until I joined FPN a few months ago.

Is it possible that there is a trans-Atlantic difference in its use?

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Posted 21 May 2015 - 04:22

Number 5 (with its variant no. 3) is the only one that's taught in schools over here. And it was the same thirty years ago, when I was in school. It's also the same handwritten r that my parents learned in school.


Edited by Vlad Soare, 21 May 2015 - 04:52.


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Posted 28 May 2015 - 17:45

The way I was taught cursive/script, the lowercase "r" is written like #2 of the poll.  In practice for me, the "gentle slide downwards" isn't always prominent.  Sometimes it almost blends into the "steep curve downwards", resulting in what looks more like two lines for the letter than three.

 

Edit:  Since this thread is in the calligraphy section, I should probably mention that when I do calligraphy, I write my letters the way the alphabet I'm using does.  So it could take any number of forms then.


Edited by Dronak, 28 May 2015 - 17:48.

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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:03

I was trained at a young age to be a draftsman and so even tho those days are gone (#%?! Computers) I still typically write everything uppercase, if I want "lower case" I just print smaller.

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Posted 19 July 2015 - 00:24

Seems that this one is more frequently used in penmanship .

Edited by Acc., 19 July 2015 - 00:24.


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Posted 19 July 2015 - 02:59

I'm trying to learn engrossers and I'm writing my r's like a combination of the Spencerian and alternate roundhand (3 and 5)

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