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Should I Fear Foreign Inks?

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#21 marcomillions


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Posted 29 December 2012 - 09:19


From my limited experience, it seems the use of 'foreign inks' degrades the performance of the pens' spell checker.


LOL, Sandy.

My Pilot VP spell checker never worked properly, but Pilot said it could not be repaired under warranty, but was "user error." Hmph.

When you say "black" to a printer in "big business" the word is almost meaningless, so innumerable are its meanings. To the craftsman, on the other hand, black is simply the black he makes --- the word is crammed with meaning: he knows the stuff as well as he knows his own hand. --- Eric Gill

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 22:12

Some folks that never owned a fountain pen get jobs in a fountain boutique.

At the wages paid, one can not expect much ability or desire to learn.

Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 29 December 2012 - 22:13.

Wisdom of the Founders, and their check and balances system is more a wonder than I thought. 


Due to Mauricio's improved definition of Super-flex, I try not use the term Easy Full Flex, but fail...sigh.


Semi-flex is an “almost” flex; not a ‘flex’ nib. It is great for regular writing with a touch of flair. It can give you some fancy; but it is not made for real fancy writing. For bit more of that get a maxi-semi-flex. Both spread tines 3X.  Those are not "Flex" nibs. 


Wider than Normal does not exist. Wider than Japanese does. Every company has it's very own standard + slop/tolerance. Developed from the users of it's pens and inks only; not the users or inks of other companies pens. The size you grind a nib to, is your standard only. Paper and ink matter to nib width. Thank god for 1/2 sizes or it would be boring.

#23 spotted and speckled

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 22:46

Foreign inks make me write in foreign languages and make me want to visit foreign lands.
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Posted 29 December 2012 - 23:02

As long as your don't use dip pen inks or India ink in your fountain pen, all other fountain pen inks should work just fine. I have a Mont Blanc 149, 146, 145, 144 and Dumas and none of them have ever had Mont Blanc ink in them and they all continue to operate perfectly.

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Posted 29 December 2012 - 23:43

Where is this store, and who is this employee? What about like-brand paper, huh?
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#26 tinta


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Posted 30 December 2012 - 02:47

If I get a new Sailor pen, I will fill with one of their Jentle inks first, usually the Blue.
My first modern pen was a Sailor 1911-M & my first new ink was a Jentle Blue.
Since then, I've collected a ship-full of Sailors.

After a pen's first fill, I'll use any brand of well-behaved ink, formulated for fountain pens.
It is helpful to look through the Ink Reviews & Comparisons, use the FPN Google search, to learn as much as you can about a brand or about a colour you like.

Except for the iron-galls, I prefer wetter inks,...but after that, there is no hard & fast rule for the inks I choose.
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 04:19

I don't understand why Mont blanc representatives in Toronto tell me that their black ink has iron gall in it. When its their blue-black that does. Then again Pelikan reps tell me the same thing that pelikan pens should only use their own ink. I'm sure this is suggested with every pen maker out there. I know people who use only BSB in their mb 149. So just goes to show you that you could use any ink you want to. That's the fun part of owning a pen.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 19:37

Exactly. The best experiences I've had were from Pelikan. They seemed to know the most. After that came Lamy. The worst was -- and is, and remains -- MB. They often, if not almost always have no clue about their inks. But that is, as seen by themselves, no real harm. They'd much easier and more frequently be able to sell you a watch or a bag or a scarf or....


PS: I'm very sorry, I forgot, the very very worst company I've not yet ever had the possibility to communicate with is Ambraxas (Switzerland, I assume). They just don't appear to have a pinch of ahh y'know sh*t as regards any interest in any contact at all.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 04:21

never use indian ink on a fountain pen because there's always a possibility it will clogg up so be careful

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 06:42

The MontBlanc rep is talking baloney. Use whatever you like.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:17

You mean MB once told you that you can use baloney in their pens?

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:22

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 09:08

I must admit that I only use Mb ink in my Mb 146's and 149 piston fillers, because they are more difficult to clean than CC fillers. However, I'm more adventurous with other brand inks in my 147 cartridge filler.

I wouldn't risk a heavily saturated ink that might permanently colour the window in one of my piston fillers.

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