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#81 bleair

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Posted 05 September 2013 - 10:00

It sounds like the company really wants to go after the notebook market...

 

 

The video talks about how they do make the covers in Germany and they will stamp a customized cover for some customers... not sure how large of an order you have to place for that though :)



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Posted 05 September 2013 - 15:42

The video talks about how they do make the covers in Germany and they will stamp a customized cover for some customers... not sure how large of an order you have to place for that though :)

 

For just the name, you only need to order one. For example http://www.bureaudir...tebook-a4/p3074 for the Master size.


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Posted 05 September 2013 - 23:48

I was in Germany this summer and had an opportunity to shop for notebooks at stores with excellent selection. I bout several brands, but Leuchtturm is the best of the lot. High quality, nicely thought out and a perfect size.

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Posted 12 September 2013 - 16:16

I have two master notebooks I am saving for a special purpose. I want to test my pen/ink combinations before I get started. I am reluctant to tear a perforated page out or buy a third one just for testing the colors out on, but the paper is not quite the same as in the smaller notebooks. Any suggestions?

 

I guess they have half-size ones but eh... they are so large, I don't know what I"d do with the rest of it even then.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 16:48

I have two master notebooks I am saving for a special purpose. I want to test my pen/ink combinations before I get started. I am reluctant to tear a perforated page out or buy a third one just for testing the colors out on, but the paper is not quite the same as in the smaller notebooks. Any suggestions?

 

I guess they have half-size ones but eh... they are so large, I don't know what I"d do with the rest of it even then.

 

Tear a page, cut a page. One or the other. The paper in the Master is different from the other sizes and on top they do change it occasionally, so taking a page from one of your books is really the best way.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 17:21

yeah... I should have bought a third one just in case. It's possible I will need that much space for the project. The page changing is a bummer. Great there's better paper but frustrating not knowing what you're going to get when you open the package.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 18:04

yeah... I should have bought a third one just in case. It's possible I will need that much space for the project. The page changing is a bummer. Great there's better paper but frustrating not knowing what you're going to get when you open the package.

 

I have five six! Master notebooks and they are all good. I think the paper is only getting better.



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Posted 15 September 2013 - 00:03

I bought two Master 1917 A4 notebooks for college based on the positive reviews here and the product description on amazon of strong non bleed through paper. After waiting with anticipation for the school year to start I was soarly disappointed with the high level of bleed through experienced when using an extra fine nib. The bleeding rendered the over side of the page redundant for note taking and I had no option but to revert to using a gel rollerball. Most unhappy given the premium I paid for the notebooks with a view to using fountain pens on the paper. If I had purchased them in a bricks & mortar store I would be returning them immediately but given the inconvenience of returning them I find myself stuck with them.....pitty as the quality of construction and the format of the pages are brilliant.... Rant over sorry.
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Posted 21 September 2013 - 05:35

I bought two Master 1917 A4 notebooks for college based on the positive reviews here and the product description on amazon of strong non bleed through paper. After waiting with anticipation for the school year to start I was soarly disappointed with the high level of bleed through experienced when using an extra fine nib. The bleeding rendered the over side of the page redundant for note taking and I had no option but to revert to using a gel rollerball. Most unhappy given the premium I paid for the notebooks with a view to using fountain pens on the paper. If I had purchased them in a bricks & mortar store I would be returning them immediately but given the inconvenience of returning them I find myself stuck with them.....pitty as the quality of construction and the format of the pages are brilliant.... Rant over sorry.

 

Which ink were you using? I've been hesitant to get a Master since my Large bleeds more than a stuck pig, but after reading every comment before yours I was ready to pull the trigger. Your comment gives me pause again. Perhaps it is the ink, though? Some inks just seem to feather and bleed on all but the absolute best papers. I've gotten samples from Goulet that bled on Rhodia pads...


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 07:12

I'm wondering what people are doing to get so much bleed-through. My larges hold up to most of the inks I've used, mostly through my Lamy Safari F and occasionally other pens. I can write on the backs of most pages. Yeah, it could be better, but it's rarely an issue. The Master has better paper than that.



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Posted 21 September 2013 - 14:56

I'm wondering what people are doing to get so much bleed-through. My larges hold up to most of the inks I've used, mostly through my Lamy Safari F and occasionally other pens. I can write on the backs of most pages. Yeah, it could be better, but it's rarely an issue. The Master has better paper than that.

 

I don't mind show through and actually prefer a hint of it, but my Large 1917 bled like crazy with a Lamy M with Lamy Blue-Black. Now I have a million different inks and different pens to try on it, so I should give it another chance. When I first started using it it reminded me of slightly better Moleskine paper (again, in the Large) so I wasn't too impressed. The Large has 80g paper and the Master has 100g.


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 16:14

 

I don't mind show through and actually prefer a hint of it

Yes a bit of show through is ok with me too, its just bleedthrough which I do not like


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Posted 21 September 2013 - 17:29

Agreed. I don't think anyone likes bleedthrough very much. It used to be that bleedthrough was a problem, but in my experience the newer note-books don't have the problem anymore. I have to think that the negative examples we are seeing here are  examples of old stock. I am sure there are some inventories that still contain the Master 1917's with the poorer quality paper. Perhaps if one buys from a dealer that sells great quantities of stuff those inventories will no longer exist.

Having said that, I know there are ink and nib  combinations that act very aggressively on any paper, so one has to experiment with various combos  on one of the back pages that are perforated for tearing out easily. This way you can save messing up your note-book. Or better still, leave the page there so you can check in the future to see which combinations were no-no's.

 

Cheers

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 17:14

Agreed. I don't think anyone likes bleedthrough very much. It used to be that bleedthrough was a problem, but in my experience the newer note-books don't have the problem anymore. I have to think that the negative examples we are seeing here are  examples of old stock. I am sure there are some inventories that still contain the Master 1917's with the poorer quality paper. Perhaps if one buys from a dealer that sells great quantities of stuff those inventories will no longer exist.

Having said that, I know there are ink and nib  combinations that act very aggressively on any paper, so one has to experiment with various combos  on one of the back pages that are perforated for tearing out easily. This way you can save messing up your note-book. Or better still, leave the page there so you can check in the future to see which combinations were no-no's.

 

Cheers

Leo

 

I really like the organization of Leuchtturm notebooks which are, in my opinion, the best of the best for that feature. If the paper has really improved then I'll buy one, since that would make it the best all-around notebook I think. It would be perfect for me if they made a calendar version, too. I could have one for notes the other as my calendar. I did that for one semester with Moleskines (and ballpoints, obviously) and really liked the results.


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 00:08

@kde - I'm not sure how you use your calendar, but I thought this might be of help for setting up your own calendar / to do list.

 http://www.bulletjournal.com/

 

hope this helps!

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 12:12

 

I really like the organization of Leuchtturm notebooks which are, in my opinion, the best of the best for that feature. If the paper has really improved then I'll buy one, since that would make it the best all-around notebook I think. It would be perfect for me if they made a calendar version, too. I could have one for notes the other as my calendar. I did that for one semester with Moleskines (and ballpoints, obviously) and really liked the results.

If you are going to try one, my advice would be to get one from Goulets since they have a big turnover in their stock and you will be unlikely to end up with one of the older versions with poorer quality paper. Just my two cents worth. :-)

Cheers

Leo


Edited by leomitch, 23 September 2013 - 12:13.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 01:31

@kde - I'm not sure how you use your calendar, but I thought this might be of help for setting up your own calendar / to do list.

 http://www.bulletjournal.com/

 

hope this helps!

p

 

That is very cool! Thanks for the recommendation! I'm going to give this system a real look over the weekend. I'm a sucker for A5 notebooks so this system in an Apica A5 would be perfect! 

 

If you are going to try one, my advice would be to get one from Goulets since they have a big turnover in their stock and you will be unlikely to end up with one of the older versions with poorer quality paper. Just my two cents worth. :-)

Cheers

Leo

 

Good tip, thanks ! I'll keep that in mind. Now for payday to come by! 


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