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S. T. Dupont Gatsby


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#1 olivier78860

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:01

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The clip is ornamented with a black chinese lacquer band.

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More light aded to the picture, so you can see the details.

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Deep brown chinese lacquer and gold particles give a very beautiful depth effect.

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The pen, posted.

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Close-up on the cap and gold dust 1/2

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Close-up on the cap and gold dust 2/2.

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The end of the barrel is specialy designed to secure the cap when posted

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So we can insert the cap's end inside it.

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And we get a perfectly posted cap, with no line interruption.

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How to replace the cartridge, by unscrewing the cap. No more inky fingers!

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A close up on the section and the "male" dents

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Detail: The "female" dents inside the cap. They also are used when posting the cap, since the disc at the end of the barrel is free to rotate inside the barrel.

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The nib. I won't even mention how smooth it is.

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Detail: the feeder. Note that the same nib and feed are used on the "Classique" model.

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Dimensions : 13.8cm long closed, 12cm uncapped, 16.2 cm posted, 1cm diameter.

EDIT : Apparently, this pen is named "La plume ultime" and not Gatsby.

Edited by olivier78860, 07 October 2012 - 20:31.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 15:25

Great review. That is the small Gatsby; there is also a larger version that is wider, slightly longer and that has the newer wrap around nib.

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And the small and large Gatsby next to the small and large Montparnasse.

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Also remember, the Gatsby like the Montparnasse and Classique use the Parker Standard cartridge/converter and not the International Standard.


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#3 olivier78860

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 17:52

I would say it uses the Parker converter but it is more difficult to use the Parker cartridges, because they aren't fully compatible.

If you have a look at this (sorry about the quality, but I only have MSPaint)

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you'll see that it might be problematic to use Parker cartridges with a S.T. Dupont pen from this era. I noticed it when putting Parker cartridges inside my Montparnasse pens. Brute force needed, and random ink flow since the seal wasn't properly removed.

This issue of course won't occur with a converter since there is no seal.

Edited by olivier78860, 07 October 2012 - 17:52.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 20:07

Hi,if I recall correctly tne pen Bigger pen is the Gatsby and the other one is La plume Ultime .La plume Ultime and the classic II were offer almost at the same time,being it more expensive.I stand to be corrected.Jch.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 20:26

I would say it uses the Parker converter but it is more difficult to use the Parker cartridges, because they aren't fully compatible.

If you have a look at this (sorry about the quality, but I only have MSPaint)

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you'll see that it might be problematic to use Parker cartridges with a S.T. Dupont pen from this era. I noticed it when putting Parker cartridges inside my Montparnasse pens. Brute force needed, and random ink flow since the seal wasn't properly removed.

This issue of course won't occur with a converter since there is no seal.


I've never had any problems and the ST Dupont cartridges sold for the Gatsby appear identical to the short Parker cartridges.

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#6 olivier78860

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 20:32

jchch1950, you are indeed correct. This isn't a Gatsby, but a (oh, modesty) "La plume ultime" (the ultimate nib). I wasn't even aware of the existence of this model. Thanks for pointing this out :)

If a moderator was kind enough to modify the title of this topic :)

Edited by olivier78860, 07 October 2012 - 20:34.

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Posted 15 October 2012 - 22:09

Nice review

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 13:19

Interesting topic this, especialy about the converters used for the classique. I have a ST Dupont Classique I think, although it slightly differs from the model shown above in lacquer. I'll try to make a photo and post it.

Anyway, I notice that there are a lot of different ST Dupont converters, which all fit different pens. Nowadays it seems they have only one converter left and it doesn't really fit my old fountain pen, which dates from around 1979/80.



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Posted 02 October 2013 - 13:35

Interesting topic this, especialy about the converters used for the classique. I have a ST Dupont Classique I think, although it slightly differs from the model shown above in lacquer. I'll try to make a photo and post it.

Anyway, I notice that there are a lot of different ST Dupont converters, which all fit different pens. Nowadays it seems they have only one converter left and it doesn't really fit my old fountain pen, which dates from around 1979/80.

 

The many variations of the Classique will use Parker or Aurora converters jess fine.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:59

 

The many variations of the Classique will use Parker or Aurora converters jess fine.

That is useful, thanks. I'll try to get one and see if it fits.



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 21:25

very nice quality pen :thumbup: thanks for sharing


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Posted 31 July 2015 - 10:47

I would say it uses the Parker converter but it is more difficult to use the Parker cartridges, because they aren't fully compatible.

If you have a look at this (sorry about the quality, but I only have MSPaint)


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you'll see that it might be problematic to use Parker cartridges with a S.T. Dupont pen from this era. I noticed it when putting Parker cartridges inside my Montparnasse pens. Brute force needed, and random ink flow since the seal wasn't properly removed.

This issue of course won't occur with a converter since there is no seal.

 

 

Dear Olivier,

 

thank you verymuch for this extremly helpful information.

 

I always wondered, why I have difficutlies when trying to put PARKER cartridges into one of my old Duponts, while at the same time the S.T. DUPONT cartridges went in very easily into the same pen.

 

You are a real expert!!

 

Axel



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Posted 02 August 2015 - 14:11

I have had a blue Ocean Lacquer La Plume Ultime for many years. These pens are true works of art. If you look around, you can still get the old-style ST Dupont cartridges for them. The ST Dupont converters have a problem with too much surface tension.


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