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Thanks for your pix Stefan, but it's definitely not the same system : on mine there is a golden ring that yours doesn't seems to have.

 

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i404/Xof72000/SAM_1138_zps10fbe314.jpg

 

The top button just turn "mad" (like we say in french... don't know if it make sense in english :embarrassed_smile: ) but doesn't unscrew. I first have to unscrew the golden ring to be able to pull of the top button : as you can see on the pictures, I get acces to the leads, but no rubber, and no thread...

 

http://i1092.photobucket.com/albums/i404/Xof72000/SAM_1139_zps58e9c37e.jpg

 

Like 'Andyk' said, I really think the feeding of the leads has to be done by the hole end of the pencil.

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At least I learned how to feed my 450. Thanks Stefan.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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Beautiful, beautiful.. up until now I am still at a loss as to how you guys are able to find such pens in flea markets! I've visited a few antique shops, only to find a number of broken pens sitting ignored in a corner. :(

 

Enjoy that set!

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It occurs to me that I don't know if I can actually put leads into the pencil as shown in my photo. It could be that this is only a storage compartment, and that the leads need to be inserted from the front for actual use. The reason I don't know is that there was already a lead in the feed when I got the pencil (just a few weeks ago). I'll have to take the lead out, and see if another one feeds automagically.

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My best guess is that you have one of the earliest Pelikan 400 sets made. I have seen images dating to 1938 showing Pelikan products using that same style of mechanism for the pencil, that same case, and referencing the same markings. I have also seen a 1950 Colour advertisement which matches the Fountain Pen, and which interestingly was priced at 25 Deutsch Marks for it alone when it was new.

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  • 4 years later...

:headsmack: Sorry about zombieing............ :blush: :rolleyes:

But some how I had pushed hard, or put the tip to the paper and did so.....so thought the pencil was empty. :o

I'm very glad I didn't show up at my B&M looking to see how to fill a pencil with lead still in it.

I still have lead in the back compartment.

 

I really like the balance on that 450....until I screwed up...and thought it empty....and somehow got the eraser out with out the screw on eraser protector, so I was really lost, in I could not figure out how to fill it, looking down the back seeing only a brass bottom. :unsure:

Having no spare lead.....well, I did, but it was 'hidden'....by circumstance and ignorance.

 

Sigh, I don't know what I'm going to do with the 20 inked pens, now my 450 is back in operation. :lol:

Until this 450, I never liked mechanical pencils....Jotters and my P-75 pencil/ball point. I'll have to dig that one out...to compare. I still have the 'end messy refilling' lead cartridge.

Now to see if that's only disposable or not.

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In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

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