Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies






Photo

Lang Pen Company - Liverpool


  • Please log in to reply
8 replies to this topic

#1 penuria

penuria

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 59 posts

Posted 09 January 2007 - 19:33

Hi ..... I am researching some pens and am trying to get some info on the Lang Pen Company of Liverpool (UK). They appear on some significant patents filed by Ernest Macauley Wade (Owner) and some of his family members. From what I can make out they produced between 1910 and 1937

Any help would be appreciated : smile.gif .

John

Edited by penuria, 09 January 2007 - 21:01.


Sponsored Content

#2 jhmclearly

jhmclearly

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 209 posts

Posted 18 January 2007 - 21:17

Have a look at this link John.

http://www.penpractice.com/page21.html

It has a mention of Langs who apparently manufactured pens for Stephens.

#3 antoniosz

antoniosz

    ET IN ARCADIA EGO

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,039 posts

Posted 19 January 2007 - 02:24

It looks that they were active even later.
Check http://v3.espacenet....=advanced&LG=en

while for the earlier patents of E.M. Wade see:

http://v3.espacenet....=advanced&LG=en

#4 jhmclearly

jhmclearly

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 209 posts

Posted 19 January 2007 - 10:12

I'm assuming you've seen this link, but here it is anyway.

http://www.denbighsh...33;OpenDocument

It seems as if they also produced Enfield Rifles during the war as I did come across another link listing them with a makers mark... but that was with a factory in Leeds.

I'll try and find the link again.

#5 jhmclearly

jhmclearly

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 209 posts

Posted 19 January 2007 - 10:14

There you go...

http://home.earthlin...hkaia8/id3.html

About half way down the page.

#6 penuria

penuria

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 59 posts

Posted 22 January 2007 - 19:09

Hi ... Firstly many thanks for all of the information. I have been been pretty short on time the last few days hence the delay is responding!
Its great to get this sort of help and its one of the great strengths of the FPN.
I have also had the Liverpool records office on the trail and they provided the following information from the trade directories:

1940

Lang Pen Co. Ltd, fountain pen mkrs, Hope St works 13, Hope St, - warehouse entrance Arrad St

1952

Lang Pen Co. Ltd, fountain pen mkrs, Hope St & 2A, South Hunter St

1955

Lang Pen Co. Ltd, fountain pen mkrs, 2A, Hunter St
Lang Precision Engineering Ltd, press tool mkrs, Hope St works

1958

Lang Precision Engineering Ltd, press tool makers, Hope St works

1960

Lang Precision Engineering Ltd, press tool makers, Hope St works

1962

Whiteley, Lang & Neill Ltd, 13/15, Hope St

It looks from the entries in the trade directories that the pen company probably did their manufacturing at 13, Hope Street at the Hope St works.

The company of Lang Precision Engineering Ltd took over the site of the Lang Pen Co. Ltd in the mid 1950s. These companies were obviously linked. There is newscutting about Eric Ernest Samuel Wade. He was the chairman and managing director of the Lang Precision Engineering Co. and of the firm Lang Pen Co. which operated before it. The newscutting is about his death in November 1959.

The company of Whiteley, Lang & Neill Ltd took over the site in Hope St in the early 1960s. Apparently this company was formed in 1960, an amalgamation of the Liverpool firms of Whiteley Mills Ltd, and the Lang Precision Engineering Ltd in association with the Sheffield firm of James Neill & Co. This company must have moved very early on from the Hope St site as its factory on Speke Hall Road, Speke was officially opened on 8th December 1961. It was a high precision toolmaking business.


The next task is to visit the library in Liverpool to try to get some contemporary stuff and hopefully catalogues!!

Thanks again to all of you for the posts. biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I will reciprocate on areas where I have the knowledge.

Anything else that can be found would be of interest biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

I have copies of all the patents now so I will try to post for posterity!!

John

#7 peterbackman

peterbackman

    Dipped Only

  • Member - Gold

  • Pip
  • 3 posts

Posted 05 April 2007 - 14:11

I just came across this thread. I know quite a bit about The Lang Pen Company - but not much about pens:

Samuel Wade was a stationer and fancy goods agent in the 1870s/80s in London, England. He started making steel pens in about 1880.

By the late 1890s he lived in Liverpool and had retired from day to day work. However, we do know that at about that time he made a trip to New York to pick up samples, including samples of new pens.

Some of his sons (including Samuel Frank) set up a limited company - The Lang Company - in 1899. Other sons included Osmond, Ernest and Leslie - they were also involved from time to time in the business.

From 1904, the company operated from 13 Hope Street in Liverpool.

It was put into liquidation in 1907.

In February of that year, a new company - The Lang Pen Company - was set up with several of the same managers and shareholders as in the previous company, and several new ones as well. This company also operated from the Hope Street address.

Several people from Germany (principally Munich) were involved in running the business as was an "an American workman" about whom I know nothing.

In 1915, that business was put into liquidation and a new company - with the same name - was established in the same year, and still operating from Hope Street.

From then on, things seem to have stabilised and the business continued until the 1940/50s. It seems that there was a sister company, Amalgamated Gold Pen Makers; this company seems to have traded in gold for nibs, supplying all the pen makers in the UK (except Parker apparently); it possibly helped keep The Lang Pen Company afloat during its troubled times.

During World War II, The Lang Pen Company made radiators (for tanks/aeroplanes?) in Ruthin, Denbighshire (actually in the former Ruthin jail) and Abergavenny, in south Wales. (I was not previously aware of the work that they did on rifles).

The advent of the ball point pen caused problems and, so I am lead to believe, lead to the ultimate demise of pen making by the company although some efforts were made to make ball point pens in the late 1940s.

I hope this bit of history is of interest.

P

#8 UK Mike

UK Mike

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 687 posts
  • Location:Sheffield, Yorkshire
  • Flag:

Posted 04 December 2014 - 23:50

A long-dead thread (is over 7 years a new record?) but interestingly the Lang premises on 13, Hope Street, Liverpool have just opened up as a Bistro under the name "The Pen Factory" 

 

http://www.liverpool...open-up-8196747


Edited by UK Mike, 04 December 2014 - 23:53.

Pens and paper everywhere, yet all our hearts did sink,

Pens and paper everywhere, but not a drop of ink.


"Cursive writing does not mean what I think it does"

#9 davidod

davidod

    Dipped Only

  • Member - Silver

  • Pip
  • 5 posts
  • Location:London
  • Flag:

Posted 21 May 2015 - 20:59

I know the streets mentioned above quite well. South Hunter Street is close to Hope Street, and Arrad Street is round the back of Hope Street, running parallel with it. Arrad Street still contains buildings which do look just like small old warehouses, presumably including the same one which the Lang Pen Company used.     








Sponsored Content




|