Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies







Photo

Can A Lamy Safari Fountain Pen Use Parker Cartridges?


  • Please log in to reply
39 replies to this topic

#1 JasH

JasH

    Mint

  • Member - Bronze

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 15:39

Can a Lamy Safari fountain pen use Parker cartridges?

I have a lot of Parker cartridges, and was thinking of buying a Lamy Safari. As the Lamy comes without a converter, I was wondering whether my existing stock of Parker cartridges will fit it please?

Sponsored Content

#2 pendulous

pendulous

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 94 posts
  • Location:Lanarkshire - Scotland
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 15:50

no

see http://www.pendemonium.com/index.htm

Quote
Proprietary Cartridges
These companies make pens that will ONLY take their cartridges, no others will fit, they are proprietary cartridges. Once in awhile, people get in a pinch and try to SHOVE a different cartridge into one of these pens. It might work, but be forewarned, you're just asking for a leaky cartridge, or even possible damage to your pen.

AT Cross
Lamy
Pilot/Namiki
Platinum
Sailor
Sheaffer (except Reacktor which uses Std Short International size)
Sheaffer Slim Cartridge II (Specs: Length: 64.5mm; Insertion end: 3.85mm; Barrel end: 6.5mm)

Unquote

Edited by pendulous, 21 July 2012 - 15:59.


#3 JasH

JasH

    Mint

  • Member - Bronze

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 15:59

no



Thank you :thumbup: Pity :(

#4 Songyi

Songyi

    Quiescent

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 421 posts
  • Location:Ottawa, Ontario
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 16:02

Not easily... is there a specific Parker (Quink I'm assuming) ink that you want for you Safari? I'm pretty sure Parker sells all their cartridges in bottled form.
“My two fingers on a typewriter have never connected with my brain. My hand on a pen does. A fountain pen, of course. Ball-point pens are only good for filling out forms on a plane.”
Graham Greene

#5 pendulous

pendulous

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 94 posts
  • Location:Lanarkshire - Scotland
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 16:32

Not easily... is there a specific Parker (Quink I'm assuming) ink that you want for you Safari? I'm pretty sure Parker sells all their cartridges in bottled form.


The OP is simply wanting to use up a surplus of Parker cartridges - if I read his post correctly?

#6 PAKMAN

PAKMAN

    Say that again, I have a pen here somewhere...

  • FPN Super Moderators

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,977 posts
  • Location:Arkansas, USA
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 17:00

Sorry to disagree but I've had good luck using Parker Carts in my Lamy Safari. Also see this previous discussion:


http://www.fountainp...-ink-cartridge/

PAKMAN
 

minibanner.gif             fpn_1321906507__vanness_sign.jpg 

                  My Favorite Pen Restorer                            My favorite Brick and Mortar              

                                                                   now selling online!


#7 jslallar

jslallar

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,289 posts
  • Location:Pakistan
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 17:55

I am using a Parker slide converter in my Lamy Safari, no complaints so far.
Never tried cartridges though but they should fit. Above post confirms that too.
Enjoy your pens
Have a nice day
Junaid

#8 hari317

hari317

    Classic

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 14,401 posts
  • Location:Mumbai, INDIA
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 18:22

I use quink carts on my safari as well as Aurora pens.
In case you wish to write to me, pls use ONLY email by clicking here. I do not check PMs. Thank you.

#9 Goncharov

Goncharov

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 65 posts
  • Location:San Diego
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 19:06

I bought a bunch of the discontinued Parker Penman Sapphire carts last year, after seeing them mentioned in a couple of threads here at FPN. They have worked perfectly well in my Safari/AlStar Lamys.

#10 Nokin

Nokin

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 587 posts
  • Location:Swindon
  • Flag:

Posted 21 July 2012 - 19:21

I've got Parker Blue/Black cartridges in a Safari and it works and write like a dream.
Happiness isn't getting what you want, it's wanting what you've got.

#11 sunrise

sunrise

    Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 80 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 July 2012 - 14:55

I`m using a Lamy converter in my Parker Duofold. It works just fine.

#12 leod

leod

    Inksane

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,045 posts
  • Location:New England
  • Flag:

Posted 22 July 2012 - 15:33

I'm using penman carts in safari, looks like others have good experiences in other Parker carts
Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing

#13 tomgartin

tomgartin

    coffee black, whiskey neat.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 999 posts
  • Location:Decatur, GA
  • Flag:

Posted 22 July 2012 - 18:10

I've had two 45's that both used the Lamy Z26 converter successfully. I don't see why Parker cartridges couldn't work in a Safari. Just because it's "proprietary" doesn't mean it doesn't play well with others.

- - -

 

Currently trying to sell a Pelikan M400 White Tortoise. PM if you're interested.  :)


#14 Dillo

Dillo

    Museum Piece

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,643 posts

Posted 22 July 2012 - 19:17

Hi,

You can also use Aurora cartridges in Lamy pens. Just another option for you.

Dillon

Stolen: Aurora Optima Demonstrator Red ends Medium nib. Serial number 1216 and Aurora 98 Cartridge/Converter Black bark finish (Archivi Storici) with gold cap. Reward if found. Please contact me if you have seen these pens.

Please send vial orders and other messages to fpninkvials funny-round-mark-thing gmail strange-mark-thing com. My shop is open once again if you need help with your pen.

Dillon


#15 JasH

JasH

    Mint

  • Member - Bronze

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 July 2012 - 20:45

Everyone, thanks :)

But I've only just come back to this thread and seen all the follow up replies. After the first response, I ordered a Lamy converter so I can just use my bottled inks.

The only reason I wanted to use Parker cartridges was simply to use up a stock of about 20 of them that I have. No matter though :)

#16 Robert Alan

Robert Alan

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 604 posts
  • Location:Greater Seattle Area
  • Flag:

Posted 22 July 2012 - 21:48

Can a Lamy Safari fountain pen use Parker cartridges?

I have a lot of Parker cartridges, and was thinking of buying a Lamy Safari. As the Lamy comes without a converter, I was wondering whether my existing stock of Parker cartridges will fit it please?



Hello! Parker and Aurora cartridges, which are, essentially, the same design and shape, will indeed fit in some Lamy fountain pens, like the Safari. I cannot fit a Parker/Aurora cartridge in my Lamy CP1, however. Although a new Parker cartridge will fit snuggly onto the CP1 feed nipple, it will not fit properly inside the barrel when I attempt to screw the pen together.

Please note that I must respectfully disagree with those who use Parker or Aurora converters in Lamy pens. Although a new Parker/Aurora cartridge, when punctured with a Lamy feed nipple, will fit properly--that is, it is airtight around the connection, snug and secure, the Parker or Aurora converter will not be snug and, therefore, will present an air leak that will disrupt the proper balance between ink and air that Lewis Waterman recognized as being important for proper ink flow. If the ink in a converter, when filled properly, does not freely move back and forth like the liquid in a carpenter's level, than there is an imbalance in the system which will create an ink flow problem (the ink, sometimes, gets stuck up at the wrong end of the converter). This is often incorrectly recognized as a nib or feed problem. It is, more often, a converter tolerance issue. Also, there is a huge chance that ink will leak at the feed nipple--especially during air travel.

It would be wiser to use the proper converter for either a Parker, Aurora, or Lamy fountain pen, and it has often been necessary for me to try several converters to find one that was manufactured properly. Frankly, that's why I prefer a dedicated piston-filled fountain pen--or I use cartridges with c/c pens. In my opinion, the best converters are the old-style aerometric (closed-system) converters, and I prefer them over poorly fitting or poorly manufactured piston converters that leak in air.

Regards, Robert
No matter where you go, there you are.

#17 JasH

JasH

    Mint

  • Member - Bronze

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 83 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 23 July 2012 - 14:04

It would be wiser to use the proper converter for either a Parker, Aurora, or Lamy fountain pen, and it has often been necessary for me to try several converters to find one that was manufactured properly.



Robert,

Thank you. I have in fact ordered the correct Lamy converter for use in the Safari pen. I thought better safe than sorry when it comes to possible ink leaks.

#18 Dillo

Dillo

    Museum Piece

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,643 posts

Posted 23 July 2012 - 14:50

Hi,

I think this has to do with the shape of the Lamy cartridge vs. the Aurora and Parker. I remembered vaguely that there was at least one Lamy pen that had issues with both the Aurora and Parker cartridges due to the shape of the cartridge body.

I second the converter suggestion. There a slight differences in the sizes of the cartridge and converter connectors, and while these are often trivial when using cartridges, they are important when using converters.

Dillon

Stolen: Aurora Optima Demonstrator Red ends Medium nib. Serial number 1216 and Aurora 98 Cartridge/Converter Black bark finish (Archivi Storici) with gold cap. Reward if found. Please contact me if you have seen these pens.

Please send vial orders and other messages to fpninkvials funny-round-mark-thing gmail strange-mark-thing com. My shop is open once again if you need help with your pen.

Dillon


#19 welch

welch

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,764 posts
  • Location:New York, NY
  • Flag:

Posted 23 July 2012 - 20:38

Can a Lamy Safari fountain pen use Parker cartridges?

I have a lot of Parker cartridges, and was thinking of buying a Lamy Safari. As the Lamy comes without a converter, I was wondering whether my existing stock of Parker cartridges will fit it please?


Not likely. Some people claim to have used Lamy carts in Parker pens, and Parkers in Lamy, but:

- I find that size slightly off.
- Safari converters can be had for about $5 USD, on-line
- Lamy carts are reasonably priced, and their ink is decent. Also easy to find on-line
Don't take any job that requires new clothes.

#20 tomgartin

tomgartin

    coffee black, whiskey neat.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 999 posts
  • Location:Decatur, GA
  • Flag:

Posted 23 July 2012 - 20:40

Good idea ordering a converter. It's really the easiest solution for the Safari, and I've found Lamy's build quality to be superb. Glad you found the help you needed here.

- - -

 

Currently trying to sell a Pelikan M400 White Tortoise. PM if you're interested.  :)







Sponsored Content




|