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Hi,

 

I have a Lamy AL Star Fountain Pen that does NOT creep with Noodler's Eternal Hunter Green ink. But a new Lamy Studio Palladium creeps like crazy with the same ink. It doesn't affect the functioning of the pen (still writes well), but its frustrating to see the ink pool on the nib and have to wipe it every once and a while (it looks ugly). Is there anything that can be done to mediate the nib creep? Could the creeping be due to the AL Star being an all steel nib and the Studio Palladium a gold nib?

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There have a few posts on this elsewhere (try a search for nib creep). From what I've gathered, it just happens with some pens and some inks. I have a Sheaffer Prelude and Noodlers really creeps on it, black or Zhivago. Someone once said creep is worse with steel nibs, but I haven't seen that comment repeated. But I don't have as much creep with my gold nibs.

 

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It only happens with the noodlers eternals. You can change ink. I thought of putting a little silicon grease on the nib close to the slit, but I finally did not, because if the grease enters the slit, the nib would stop working.

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Your post reminds me of an index reference in my manuals for Stata (a stats program):

 

Loop (see Infinite Loop)

 

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Infinite Loop (see Loop)

 

 

I'll just post this one here...

:lol:

 

Just caught myself on the second trip 'round... <_<

 

Good thread though - I think that the combination of the nib irregularities as Richard states, as well as a perhaps magnifying effect caused by some of the properties of the ink would go a long way to explaining many, if not all 'creep' problems.

 

That is: the prime causative factor is the nib slit irregularity, and with no irregularity, there will be no creep. With particularly bad finishing, all or almost all inks will creep on a particular nib. For a nib with only moderate irregularities, there will be inks that don't exhibit creep, and inks that do.

 

Sound about right?

 

Gerry

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For my pens that creep I just take out the cartridge or convertor, write out the pen until it dries and wipe down the nib clean until no ink rubs on the cloth. But the trick is that I then carefully wax the nib making sure not to force wax into the slit or into the breather hole. My favorite wax of choice is Zymol auto wax it's like 12 bucks from walmart, works great on cars too by the way. My theory is water won't stick, it beads on the car so probably ink being water based won't stick either.

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I have to say that I just tried the wax fix and it worked like a charm. I wish had taken some before and after pics of the nib creep. But after I waxed the nib with some car carnauba wax there was no more creep. After I waxed I flossed the slit with a brass shim. Pens writes perfectly and no nib creep.

Pen1: Pilot 78g with Wingsung EF nib, had the worst nib creep. Ink Noodlers Legal Blue

Pen2: Waterman Phileas F nib, a little narrow line of creep on both sides of slit. Ink Noodlers Eel Black

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