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#21 Ken Fraser

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 14:04

That was the version that I learned in the late 50's and early 60's with the Palmer Method.

I included it because it was part of the original alphabet, but it does look exactly like the numeral 2 and has been largely abandoned. I'm surprised that it was still being taught as late as 1960.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 14:16

That was the version that I learned in the late 50's and early 60's with the Palmer Method.

I included it because it was part of the original alphabet, but it does look exactly like the numeral 2 and has been largely abandoned. I'm surprised that it was still being taught as late as 1960.

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It was in the parochial school system in NYC. I personally never liked it and switched to the O with a tail as soon as I left elementary school.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 17:49

I'm surprised that it was still being taught as late as 1960.

Though I think I learned D'Nealian instead of Palmer, that was the sort of Q I was taught around 1980. To my recollection, no one actually used it when not required to.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 19:49

Caliken, thank you very much for putting in the effort to make the Depository available. I am enjoying it a great deal, to admire, and to poach letter forms to spruce up my own, non-calligraphic handwriting. I never realized how appealing I find unical.
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 20:16

Caliken, thank you very much for putting in the effort to make the Depository available. I am enjoying it a great deal, to admire, and to poach letter forms to spruce up my own, non-calligraphic handwriting. I never realized how appealing I find unical.

Thank you very much HildyZ. That's exactly the reaction I was hoping for! :thumbup:

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 20:35

We're off to a good start on the 'Depository of Handwriting and Calligraphy Styles' thread.

Already posted are -

English Roundhand (Copperplate) #2

Italic #4

Uncial #6

Marking Alphabet #8

Spencerian #10

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 20:38

Maybe a stupid question but on the Roundhand - is the capital Q complete?

It's not a stupid question; it does look a bit strange today, but that is the early version of the letter. It does look like the numeral 2, and for that reason, I sometimes use the letter O with a short tail.

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My Universal Penman arrived yesterday (on your recomendation) ans going through it I see a lot of those 'Q's'.

And a lot of other :puddle: stuff too! :thumbup:
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 20:42

Post #11 - is that all with the Hunt 101?

By the way, Scribblers are having a special on Higginson ink at the moment
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Posted 13 July 2012 - 21:05

My Universal Penman arrived yesterday (on your recomendation) and going through it I see a lot of those 'Q's'.

And a lot of other :puddle: stuff too! :thumbup:


I envy you.....reading it for the first time!

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 22:20

Blackletter Rotunda #30

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 22:21

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 01:35

Posts 10 and 11 (http://www.fountainp...ost__p__2402474):

Spencerian Script was devised by Platt R Spencer after whom it was named.
For extensive information on the style, go to www.iampeth .com

Post #10 was written with a Hunt 101 nib in an oblique holder with Iron Gall ink.
This example was written with Higgins Eternal ink. The image has been enlarged for clarity.
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What is normally the size of those letters? How small can Spencerian get before it loses its characteristics?
Would it be feasible to use Spencerian strokes with a #2 pencil on college-ruled paper and fit a reasonable amount of words on a line? I'm considering adopting Spencerian as my handwriting. I am aware there would be some loss of line variation.
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 12:40

quote name='Andrew H' timestamp='1342229738' post='2403269']
What is normally the size of those letters? How small can Spencerian get before it loses its characteristics?
Would it be feasible to use Spencerian strokes with a #2 pencil on college-ruled paper and fit a reasonable amount of words on a line? I'm considering adopting Spencerian as my handwriting. I am aware there would be some loss of line variation.
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Spencerian Script is often written very small. Historically, 1.5mm x height wasn't uncommon.

'Business Writing' derived from Spencerian Script, and as the monoline version, is a beautiful writing style in its own right. It's ideal for handwriting with a pencil. Here's a small example which I wrote with a normal, round- tipped fountain pen. If you want to see this script at its very best, look for 'Modern Business Penmanship' by E C Mills on the www.iampeth.com site.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 13:00

Post #11 - is that all with the Hunt 101?


The text in post #11 was written a while ago, and I have no record of the materials I used. The nib was probably a Gillott 303 or a Leonardt Principal EF and the ink would have been Higgins Eternal.

I probably used a Hunt 101 for the capital 'H' with its large swell.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:13

Gothic Batarde #35

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:21

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This is a modern version of Gothic Batarde designed by Geoff Ford. Lessons on this hand are available here.

Edited by HDoug, 19 July 2012 - 06:02.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:36

Salman,

Gothic Batarde #14

Other than your Copperplate, this is the first example I've seen of your writing, and very attractive it is too!

I like the way you've used the natural shading to best advantage. I tend to go for solid colour or black and this makes a nice change.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:43

Thank you Ken. I had not used this hand in a while and wasn't sure if it was up to the standard.

I think a solid black ink is better suited for exemplars so it lets one focus on the letters rather than add 'style' that could distract. The first example was done with a fountain pen with Pelikan Brilliant Black ink, it looks solid black on paper but the scanner shows that its not as solid as one would like :-) The second example is done with India ink that wasn't cooperating so I added a bit of water - the resulting shading was interesting enough that I decided to use it for the sample.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:58

Handwritten Kaufmann #39

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Further discussion at: 'Depository Discussion' topic. Please quote 'Handwritten Kaufmann #16'.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 12:59

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This is a handwritten version of the monoline font 'Kaufmann'.

I wrote the alphabet in monoline in post #16 but chose to write this example with an edged nib. I think that both work well and are suitable for a handwriting style.

Post #16 was written with a Pelikan fountain pen fitted with a round-tipped fine nib and this example, with a Manuscript fountain pen fitted with a medium, edged nib.

Edited by HDoug, 19 July 2012 - 06:03.





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