Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies

Registration on the Fountain Pen Network

Dearest Visitor of the little Fountain Pen Nut house on the digital prairie,

Due to the enormous influx of spammers, it is no longer possible to handle valditions in the traditional way. For registrations we therefore kindly and respectfully request you to send an email with your request to our especially created email address. This email address is register at fountainpennetwork dot com. Please include your desired user name, and after validation we will send you a return email containing the validation key, normally wiithin a week.

Thank you very much in advance!
The FPN Admin Team


Waterman Phileas Vs Parker 25 Flighter

  • Please log in to reply
4 replies to this topic

#1 myn



  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,625 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 05 June 2012 - 19:58

When I arrived here at FPN last week Lalique asked me if I'd do a comparison between my Waterman Phileas and my just purchased
Parker 25 Fligher. Well I'm about to give that a try but I do ask you to please excuse the image quality. I don't have one of those
nice digital cameras. Okay here we go.

Head to Head, Phileas vs the Parker 25 Flighter

Posted Image


The first most noticeable thing, other then colour of course is the size difference where the diameter is concerned. Preference
here will depend on what type of feel you like when holding your pen. Both balance beautifully in the hand when capped but I
find that the Phileas definitely wins this category when uncapped. My personal preference has always been toward the larger
diameter pens although I was pleasantly surprised with the reasonable comfort of the Parker given it's smaller girth.

The gold banding on the Phileas gives a very elegant look to this pen but inspite of it's rather bland silver colour and lack
of embellishments, the 25 Flighter does equally well in this category. It's profile is "simply elegant" and this pen goes out of it's
way to prove that old saying, " it's often the simplest things that are the most elegant." To give either of these pens a nod, one over
the other is impossible for me. I truly believe it comes down to a personal preference between resin and steel as well as your
judgement as to what defines elegance.

Okay enough about the outside - let's get to the guts of the whole issue.

The Waterman Phileas uses a piston convertor while the Parker 25 Flighter uses an aerometric converter. The piston I know what to
do with, but the aerometric system caused me a moment of panic. I mean the last time I ever used one of those it was oh 40 years
ago or more. Shh! Shame on me I absconded to the ball point click - just a few years of insanity folks - I'm well now. :rolleyes:

After a few minutes of just staring at this contraption my brain woke up and I realized all I needed to do was squeeze it to get the air
out and release the squeeze to get the ink in - I did that several times and I'm still writing with my first fill-up from four days ago so
I must have done something right.

Call me a bit weird but I like to see the ink filling, especially so that I know I actually do have all the air bubbles out, so on this point
I give a preferential nod to the Phileas.

The Rest of the Story.

Posted Image

Now a look at the nibs of each and the line they produce. Unfortunately for the Phileas I happen to love a fine nib and this particular one
comes with a beautiful, smooth writing medium. The Parker 25 Flighter has a fine nib and gives a lovely writing experience. It certainly
saves on the amount of paper I use. The Flighter nib is steel but very smooth and writes a nice fine line. The Phileas nib is a 23k gold
electroplated steel nib giving it a lovely two-toned appearance. In trying to compare these two nibs I have to liken it to trying to compare
a Ferrari with a Jeep, both have their uses.

To be very honest, when push comes to shove my preference gives the nod to the Parker 25 Flighter because of it's lovely fine line.

So there you have it - Waterman Phileas vs: the Parker 25 Flighter - Both are lovely pens, both write beautifully, both are elegant in their own
way. If I had to have just one? Well, let's not even go there.

Which would you chose?

Posted Image
"Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open." James Dewar
Posted Image

Sponsored Content

#2 J English Smith

J English Smith


  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,452 posts

Posted 05 June 2012 - 20:11

I'm a big fan of the P 25, and yes, the F nibs write very well. I like the durability, the 70s look, and the very solid posting of the pen. A very comfortable pen to write with for an extended period of time (the width is definitely the 'sweet spot' for my hand).

Don't have a Phileas fountain pen, do have ballpoints and a rollerball. Every now and then I get the urge to use them for the Deco appearance of them. I didn't buy the FP as I have two Waterman Laureats that I like and I believe the writing experience is very similar. Waterman has made some good lower-end pens, which I applaud. Good quality should be possible at a variety of price points!
<i>"Most people go through life using up half their energy trying to protect a dignity they never had."</i><br>-Marlowe, in <i>The Long Goodbye</i>

#3 Sandy1



  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,902 posts
  • Location:Voodoo Convent

Posted 05 June 2012 - 20:43


I have both pens, and think you have given them a fair comparison. :thumbup:

I would like to add a bit if I may.
  • Sections for the 25 can be purchased separately - no need to buy another pen for a different nib width.
  • The rigid conical nib of the 25 is great for making 'carbon' copies, where high pressure is required.
  • The 25 accepts the current translucent Parker converters: screw- slide-driven plunger.
  • Some consider certain variants of the 25 to be 'collectors items', and price them accordingly. (Phooey!)
  • The Phileas comes in so many more colours, (like RED), and a Demonstrator.

The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.

#4 deherrerajames


    Duke Celluloid Souveran of Pelikan

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPip
  • 63 posts
  • Location:Colorado Springs, CO
  • Flag:

Posted 08 June 2012 - 04:08

Thanks for your review. --- Jim
Jim DeHerrera

#5 cygnoir


    Near Mint

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPip
  • 31 posts
  • Location:Portland
  • Flag:

Posted 30 June 2012 - 14:33

Thanks for your review! Recently I found a Parker 25 Flighter at a festival market here and picked it up for £5. It has quickly become my favourite "everyday" pen, which my red Philéas had been a few years ago. They are both nice pens, and I wouldn't want to choose between them, either.

Here is a photo of my Flighter.

Posted Image
Day 194 of Project 365: Flighter by cygnoir, on Flickr

"It often shows an excellent command of language to say nothing." - Karol Newlin
._.-. Currently inked: TWSBI Diamond Mini Classic + J. Herbin Lie de The .-._.

Sponsored Content