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Did I Just Buy A Fake?


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#1 smodak

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:42

http://www.ebay.com/itm/280857095914

Did I just buy a fake?
Did I overpay?
If I do not ink it can I get the nib changed from MB for free? I want a BB Posted Image

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:46

Personally, I would not buy anything Montblanc from eBay. That's just me.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:48

Personally, I would not buy anything Montblanc from eBay. That's just me.


So far I have had good luck. I also think the cartridge fillers are easier to replicate than the piston fillers - but who knows?

Edited by smodak, 01 April 2012 - 22:54.


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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:55

I don't see anything that says "fake".

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:56

I don't see anything that says "fake".


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Posted 01 April 2012 - 22:57

If I do not ink it can I get the nib changed from MB for free? I want a BB Posted Image

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 23:06

If I do not ink it can I get the nib changed from MB for free? I want a BB Posted Image


You can take it in and ask, but it does not appear to be new in the pictures and may not have the signatures from an AD showing a recent purchase.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 23:54

If I do not ink it can I get the nib changed from MB for free? I want a BB Posted Image


You can take it in and ask, but it does not appear to be new in the pictures and may not have the signatures from an AD showing a recent purchase.


Hmm.. the seller says it is brand new - if not I will probably return or dispute it. But I get what you are saying about the lack of the authorized dealer signature. If the pen is indeed new - than the price is reasonable, right? (buyer's remorse Posted Image)

Edited by smodak, 01 April 2012 - 23:54.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 00:01

If I do not ink it can I get the nib changed from MB for free? I want a BB Posted Image


You can take it in and ask, but it does not appear to be new in the pictures and may not have the signatures from an AD showing a recent purchase.


Hmm.. the seller says it is brand new - if not I will probably return or dispute it. But I get what you are saying about the lack of the authorized dealer signature. If the pen is indeed new - than the price is reasonable, right? (buyer's remorse Posted Image)


Price seems okay.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 00:23

Many MB roller balls and ballpoints are counterfeited, it's less likely on the 149's & 146's. I've bought 4 -5 of them on eBay and they've all been legit.
Your price is quite reasonable.
I hope you're happy with it.
David

Edited by dds51968, 02 April 2012 - 00:24.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 00:57

Looks real to me...why do YOU think its fake?

Packaging looks to be from the 80's-90's though. I don't have any recent, modern pens...anyone out there who may have just purchased a new pen can chime in with comments about current packaging on new, current pens.

My take....maybe "new"....but it is new OLD STOCK. I don't believe it is a new, off the shelf from a boutique new

Will be interesting to find out if they honor the nib exchange....again, I doubt they will.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:04

Looks real to me...why do YOU think its fake?

Packaging looks to be from the 80's-90's though. I don't have any recent, modern pens...anyone out there who may have just purchased a new pen can chime in with comments about current packaging on new, current pens.

My take....maybe "new"....but it is new OLD STOCK. I don't believe it is a new, off the shelf from a boutique new

Will be interesting to find out if they honor the nib exchange....again, I doubt they will.

Rick


Rick!! Thanks very much...I am not sure why I thought it was a fake - but you guys assured me now. It could be NOS. Unless it is new or NOS it is going back...

Edited by smodak, 02 April 2012 - 01:04.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:10

Hello

I just had this conversation with MB Canada and their policy is as such:

If the nib is in excellent condition with no scratches, and they are able to put in back into stock, then it is $70 for the exchange.

If however the above mentioned is not the case, then it is $300 plus.

I find this very fair. When I send my pen in for a nib exchange, I would not want a beat up nib back .

Hope that helps.

Your purchase looks pretty good. You'll know better when it's in your hands.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:19

Hello

I just had this conversation with MB Canada and their policy is as such:

If the nib is in excellent condition with no scratches, and they are able to put in back into stock, then it is $70 for the exchange.

If however the above mentioned is not the case, then it is $300 plus.

I find this very fair. When I send my pen in for a nib exchange, I would not want a beat up nib back .

Hope that helps.

Your purchase looks pretty good. You'll know better when it's in your hands.

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Thank you!. I agree that $70 / $300 is a fair deal for the exchange. Not a lot of manufacturer would even entertain a change.

Edited by smodak, 02 April 2012 - 01:20.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:22

Hello

I just had this conversation with MB Canada and their policy is as such:

If the nib is in excellent condition with no scratches, and they are able to put in back into stock, then it is $70 for the exchange.

If however the above mentioned is not the case, then it is $300 plus.

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There's the rub....the pen smodak just bought is a bi-toned 18k...aren't the current 149 nibs back to the try-toned 18k? (Again I don't have one). But if that is the case, I doubt they would put a prior generation nib on a new barrel and resell it as new or place it "back into stock"...

Oh and while doing my nightly E**y MB rounds...seems the seller has a couple of these lying around..using same pictures, BUT does list a different serial number in the description.

Item # 280857135694


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:34

My new 2 years ago from an AD has a tri-toned 18k nib.

If you want a BB nibbed pen off eBay, wait 'til a BB comes up for sale. They're harder to find [I know, because I look for them, too] but they will come up eventually. :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:48

Oh and while doing my nightly E**y MB rounds...seems the seller has a couple of these lying around..using same pictures, BUT does list a different serial number in the description.

Item # 280857135694


Rick


Yup, and he increases the price on each subsequent auctions. He sold the first 149 (with the same description) for $325.
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Edited by smodak, 02 April 2012 - 01:50.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:49

My new 2 years ago from an AD has a tri-toned 18k nib.

If you want a BB nibbed pen off eBay, wait 'til a BB comes up for sale. They're harder to find [I know, because I look for them, too] but they will come up eventually. :rolleyes:


And when they do come in - they are not affordable :(

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:14

I hear ya :crybaby:

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 02:31

I hear ya :crybaby:


Fortunately, starting tomorrow MB will be having a sale on BB nibbed pens, buy one get two free.

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