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#1 VillersCotterets

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 00:38

It might be useful to maintain a list of nibs and nib assemblies that can be used in popular pens.

For instance,

  • 5mm Schmidt nibs
  • TWSBI Diamond 530/540
  • Franklin-Christoph model 14, 27, 29, 40
  • Levenger True Writer (strangely, the nibs are listed in the ink refills section)
  • Knox K26
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Knox K35
  • Bulow x450, x750, x530
  • Jinhao x450, x750, 159
  • Noodler's Ink Ahab
  • Lamy LZ-50
  • Lamy Accent, AL-Star, CP1, Joy, Logo, Safari, Studio, and Vista
  • Manuscript Calligraphic Set (Credit to P.A.R.)
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
etc...

And maybe also a list of nibmeisters selling ready-made nibs...


NOTE : TWSBI Diamond 540

Let me clarify this,
the 540 colored are with Bock nib + twsbi feeder
the 540 clear demonstrator will be mixing, M,B still Schemidt, EF,F will be all Bock + twsbi feeder
all stub 1.1 & 1.5 are Bock + twsbi feeder


Edited by saskia_madding, 12 March 2012 - 18:36.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:04

Sounds like a great idea!!

BTW the 5mm Schmidt nibs fit Levenger TW pens too.

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:06

I'll see what nibs I have laying around and edit this post in the future. This thread has so much possibility, love it already, VillersCotterets!

Edit:

Pelikan M200 Nibs (Credit to Malcy)
TWSBI 540, 530

Pelikan M400 Nibs (Credit to Saskia_Madding)
TWSBI 540, 530

Pilot #5 EF 14k nib from a Custom 91 (Credit to Trhall)
TWSBI 540, 530

Edited by Wikoster, 06 March 2012 - 01:22.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:50

Does anyone know if the nib on a Pelikan 381 fits on the TWSBI 530? Thanks!

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 01:58

I'll see what nibs I have laying around and edit this post in the future. This thread has so much possibility, love it already, VillersCotterets!

Edit:

Pelikan M200 Nibs (Credit to Malcy)
TWSBI 540, 530

Pelikan M400 Nibs (Credit to Saskia_Madding)
TWSBI 540, 530

Pilot #5 EF 14k nib from a Custom 91 (Credit to Trhall)
TWSBI 540, 530


Do the Pelikan nobs just screw in or need to be modified?

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Posted 06 March 2012 - 02:24

Do the Pelikan nobs just screw in or need to be modified?


You have to remove the nib from the nib unit (feeder/threaded section) and replace it into the TWSBI nib unit of which you also removed the nib. Then resetting the feeder is recommended for ink flow and consistency. Refer to the linked threads for more information on the TWSBI modifications.

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Posted 09 March 2012 - 01:33

One correction: the Knox K26 nibs fit the Noodler's piston flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens. The K35 only fits the Ahab.

One addition: The nibs from the Manuscript Calligraphy sets fit the abovementioned pens (other than the Ahab) as mentioned in my topic from a while back: http://www.fountainp...ers-piston-pen/
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 03:22

One correction: the Knox K26 nibs fit the Noodler's piston flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens. The K35 only fits the Ahab.

One addition: The nibs from the Manuscript Calligraphy sets fit the abovementioned pens (other than the Ahab) as mentioned in my topic from a while back: http://www.fountainp...ers-piston-pen/



Thank you.

Unfortunately, I cannot edit my original post anymore.


  • 5mm Schmidt nibs
  • TWSBI Diamond 530/540
  • Franklin-Christoph model 14, 27, 29, 40
  • Levenger True Writer (strangely, the nibs are listed in the ink refills section)
  • Knox K26
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Knox K35
  • Bulow x450, x750, x530
  • Jinhao x450, x750, 159
  • Noodler's Ink Ahab
  • Lamy LZ-50
  • Lamy Accent, AL-Star, CP1, Joy, Logo, Safari, Studio, and Vista
  • Manuscript Calligraphic Set (Credit to P.A.R.)
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
etc...


NOTE : TWSBI Diamond 540

Let me clarify this,
the 540 colored are with Bock nib + twsbi feeder
the 540 clear demonstrator will be mixing, M,B still Schemidt, EF,F will be all Bock + twsbi feeder
all stub 1.1 & 1.5 are Bock + twsbi feeder


Edited by VillersCotterets, 09 March 2012 - 03:25.


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Posted 12 March 2012 - 18:26

Great thread. I've been swapping nibs around on Parkers and JinHaos but not keeping good notes. I'll try to keep better records now.
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 18:35

:clap1: Very helpful idea. Let's see what the real experts here think.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 18:37

I've edited your original post for you.

Also, the m625 nibs work with the TWSBIs as well. Credit goes to mori45, as seen here.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 18:47

This is a fantastic idea. I've got both a Bexley Simplicity (a schmidt nib if I recall) and a Pelikan M150 that I'd give anything (save the cost of custom nib work) to swap their nibs for something truly XF. Any suggestions for those pens?
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 19:57

I have successfully used a Montblanc 144 spare nib on a Cross Solo. Worked perfectly.

I have put Esterbrook nib modules in Pelikan M200 and M400.

I have successfully used Pelikan M200 and M4XX 14K and 18K nib modules in Esterbrook J series and M2, they screw in but protrude some, still usable.

These might seem ridiculous, but if you had a broken pen and a spare nib, you might consider them.

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Posted 12 March 2012 - 20:10

  • 5mm Schmidt nibs
  • Esterbrook nib modules (Credit to pajaro)
    • Pelikan M200 and M400
  • Knox K26
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Knox K35
  • Bulow x450, x750, x530
  • Jinhao x450, x750, 159
  • Noodler's Ink Ahab
  • Lamy LZ-50
  • Lamy Accent, AL-Star, CP1, Joy, Logo, Safari, Studio, and Vista
  • Manuscript Calligraphic Set (Credit to P.A.R.)
    • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Montblanc 144 Nib (Credit to pajaro)
    • Cross Solo
  • Pelikan M200 and M4XX 14K and 18K nib modules (Credit to pajaro)
  • Esterbrook J series and M2 (screw in but protrude some, still usable)
etc...

NOTE : TWSBI Diamond 540

Let me clarify this,
the 540 colored are with Bock nib + twsbi feeder
the 540 clear demonstrator will be mixing, M,B still Schemidt, EF,F will be all Bock + twsbi feeder
all stub 1.1 & 1.5 are Bock + twsbi feeder


Edited by VillersCotterets, 12 March 2012 - 20:12.


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Posted 14 March 2012 - 14:11

Thanks the info. I have some cheap Chinese pens and some inexpensive Indian pens. Nib sellers on the net show 5MM, 6MM, etc. nibs. What does this measurement tell me? Is this something to do with fitting the housing? Would a 35MM nib replace a 26MM nib? Should I measure the old nib and try to find one that fits that measurement? Are most manufactured loose nibs universal in 2 or three dimensions?

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Posted 14 March 2012 - 20:32

Thanks the info. I have some cheap Chinese pens and some inexpensive Indian pens. Nib sellers on the net show 5MM, 6MM, etc. nibs. What does this measurement tell me? Is this something to do with fitting the housing? Would a 35MM nib replace a 26MM nib? Should I measure the old nib and try to find one that fits that measurement? Are most manufactured loose nibs universal in 2 or three dimensions?


Some, but not all, nibs are generic copies of popular nib systems (nib + feed).

5 mm (or 6mm) is usually the diameter of the feed.
26 mm (or 35 mm ) is usually the width of the shoulders.
Some companies describe those nibs as #5 nibs (or #6 nibs)

A #5 nib (5 mm) surely won't fit a #6 feed (which requires a 6 mm nib). But a #5 might fit a 5 mm feed... depending on the shape of the feed and length of the nib. Even if you have same dimensions, the shape of the nib might not fit the feed for many reasons. It always comes down to a trial and error process. This is why we need a list of possible compatible nibs...



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Posted 15 March 2012 - 00:30

Ok. So if a Prera nib fits a Plumix is the opposite true? Will a Plumix nib fit a Prera.
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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:37

  • #2 Moore nib (Credit to linearM)
    • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • #2 Waterman nib (with some feed modifications) (Credit to 79spitfire)
    • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • 5mm Schmidt nibs
  • Duofold nibs (Credit to imadeadend)
    • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Esterbrook nib modules (Credit to pajaro)
    • Pelikan M200 and M400
  • Knox K26
  • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Knox K35
  • Bulow x450, x750, x530
  • Jinhao x450, x750, 159
  • Noodler's Ink Ahab
  • Lamy LZ-50
  • Lamy Accent, AL-Star, CP1, Joy, Logo, Safari, Studio, and Vista
  • Manuscript Calligraphic Set (Credit to P.A.R.)
    • Noodler's Ink Flex pen, piston standard nib pen, and ebonite pens
  • Montblanc 144 Nib (Credit to pajaro)
    • Cross Solo
  • Pelikan M200 and M4XX 14K and 18K nib modules (Credit to pajaro)
  • Esterbrook J series and M2 (screw in but protrude some, still usable)
etc...

NOTE : TWSBI Diamond 540

Let me clarify this,
the 540 colored are with Bock nib + twsbi feeder
the 540 clear demonstrator will be mixing, M,B still Schemidt, EF,F will be all Bock + twsbi feeder
all stub 1.1 & 1.5 are Bock + twsbi feeder


Edited by VillersCotterets, 15 March 2012 - 12:23.


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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:46

As seen in this post

I fitted an old duofold nib onto my noodler's flex pen. Couldn't give you the EXACT model of the duofold (a 1940s model I'm sure), but I imagine many vintage Duofold nibs will fit.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 03:56

As seen in this post

I fitted an old duofold nib onto my noodler's flex pen. Couldn't give you the EXACT model of the duofold (a 1940s model I'm sure), but I imagine many vintage Duofold nibs will fit.


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