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#1 northlodge

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 12:34

I have recently been working on a couple of somewhat mysterious 'oversize' pens. There currently seems to be little information available about either, although they both offer a 'social history' story. so I thought I would document what I have before I sell them on.

The first is a pen made exclusively for James McLean Ltd of Glasgow. This was a high class book maker who attracted the most affluent clients of the day. It appears that he commissioned the production of pens from the best manufacturers, which he then gave to his valued clients. The pen has no indication of the original maker, so suggestions are welcome. Measuring in at 5 3/4", and carrying a size 8 14ct nib, this is a substantial pen:

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#2 rhosygell

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 13:46

Probably National pen products Chicago judging by the clip, lever, nib / feed/ section. It is a dead ringer for my Lincoln from the same maker.
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Posted 10 November 2011 - 14:17

I am very pleased that you posted this information NorthLodge, it follows on from an original enquiry of mine:

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The print on my pen is much weaker, I could just make out Glasgow and ACE, so thank you.

The clip on my pen is wrong and will be changed.

I agree, high quality manufacturer involved

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 23:01

Closer examination of the pen in my hand seems to suggest American manufacture, quite possibly NPP. Any further suggestions anyone ?
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Posted 25 November 2011 - 00:01

I have a pen identical to Arthur's although mine has had most of the inscription removed - you can see the CE of terrace and, now that I know what it says, a few of the other characters also. My theory is that it was made by Wyvern. The style, lever and section are pretty much identical to my Redwing.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 01:40

The similarity between the two pens is quite obvious, I am pleased that I now have a makers name for mine.

Henry Simpole has made a beautiful job of ftiing a very stylish clip to my pen and with a light restoration and polish the end result is stunning.

On the hunt for a good Warranted Number 8 to complete the job.

To the OP, when you say that James McLean were a high class book maker, i assume we a re talking about persons who make books and not a turf accountants?

Edited by Arthur, 25 November 2011 - 01:45.


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Posted 25 November 2011 - 07:10

The similarity between the two pens is quite obvious, I am pleased that I now have a makers name for mine.

Henry Simpole has made a beautiful job of ftiing a very stylish clip to my pen and with a light restoration and polish the end result is stunning.

On the hunt for a good Warranted Number 8 to complete the job.

To the OP, when you say that James McLean were a high class book maker, i assume we a re talking about persons who make books and not a turf accountants?


No, it was my understanding that James McLean was the upmarket "William Hill's" of the Glasgow area, what you term a Turf Accountant - and therefore presumably operating on the fringes of the law.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:25

The similarity between the two pens is quite obvious, I am pleased that I now have a makers name for mine.

Henry Simpole has made a beautiful job of ftiing a very stylish clip to my pen and with a light restoration and polish the end result is stunning.

On the hunt for a good Warranted Number 8 to complete the job.

To the OP, when you say that James McLean were a high class book maker, i assume we a re talking about persons who make books and not a turf accountants?


No, it was my understanding that James McLean was the upmarket "William Hill's" of the Glasgow area, what you term a Turf Accountant - and therefore presumably operating on the fringes of the law.



Thanks Paul, but the answer is disappointing. I will put the pen up for sale.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 09:37

Now having got the pen in my hand I also agree that Wyvern is the most likely source - it is all but identical in detail to my mottled rubber Wyvern 61 which is a fraction smaller. I will post photos later including the photo of the NPP pen that caused me to think differently initially.

Incidentally, in a Glasgow business directory found on line James McLean is described as a Commission Agent, probably another synonym for a betting shop !

Edited by rhosygell, 25 November 2011 - 09:39.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 10:23

I thought that you may wish to see the finished work to compare, as handsome a pen as I can recall.

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Posted 25 November 2011 - 20:00

Some photos of a Wyvern 61, Lincoln by NPP and the James McLean pen for your collective delectation -

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 14:48

Here's another McLean pen. A button filler (brass button), with 'Made in England' stamped round the barrel just above the blind cap. A well-made pen - but by whom and when?

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Posted 26 November 2011 - 16:43

Here's another McLean pen. A button filler (brass button), with 'Made in England' stamped round the barrel just above the blind cap. A well-made pen - but by whom and when?


Your pen will have been made by Parker, I have seen examples of these James McLean peens which were basically Duofolds complete with Parker pattern celluloid, Oxonian is an avid collector of these pens, so for further information I would suggest he be contacted.
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Posted 08 April 2014 - 19:06

Here's another McLean pen. A button filler (brass button), with 'Made in England' stamped round the barrel just above the blind cap. A well-made pen - but by whom and when?

 

 

 

I think is an fpen made ​​by Parker for advertising in general and James McLean Ltd, a major betting house -20 phones lines in 1927-, in Glasgow so they bought the Parker fpen and they printed advertising of them. I have seen a 1930 specimen with both imprint in the barrel "GEO S. PARKER PARKER DUOFOLD MADE IN CANADA" and JAMES McLEAN Ltd.  Here is the obituary of Mr. McLean.

 

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Edited by Lazard 20, 08 April 2014 - 20:02.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:56

A week ago a good friend sent me a beautiful Duofold Senior Moderne Green & Pearl to to take a look as not loaded ink.

 

Could not load because whoever who installing the elastic ink reservoir 40/50 years ago -I estimate that by the solidification grade of the rubber- turned section with the pressure bar inside the barrel and twisting the sac preventing it to fulfill its role.

 

Although  the sac were a curiosity that really struck me was his custom imprint that did not correspond , as more usual, a natural person , but to a legal person , being what we might today call "a advertising fountain pen" by promoting commercial services but with a expensive Parker

 

JAMES MCLEAN LTD GRAMS SPOTLESS GLASGOW

 

Driven by curiosity and while the fountain pen taking bath to soften rigor possible impurities inside barrel I introduced the name in the reference search engine and  appeared to me , nothing less, a press with  the Obituary that who appeared to have been Mr. McLean. A more refined search led me to internal documents their exciting business and reproduce here by permission and courtesy of Mr. Robert Pool author of an interesting collection of images of Glasgow.

 

Yesterday I returned the Duofold to my friend and I narrated him the intrahistoria over coffee who, in turn, allowed me to publish this entry.

 

Well, time to let these images speak:

 

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Note. The clip has been mounting these days and it does not correspond exactly. Waiting to find the corresponding to a senior streamlined.


Edited by Lazard 20, 11 April 2014 - 12:42.


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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:57

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Footnote. My English is very limited so, please, Is "grams" contraction of "telegrams" or it's a engraving error typo?

 

 

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 11:59

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:01

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 12:36

Grams will be an abbreviation for telegrams.

The use if the work Spotless is a pun. at this time book making wasnt entirely legal but the word spotless is slang for pure and legitimate.

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Posted 11 April 2014 - 13:14

Grams will be an abbreviation for telegrams.

The use if the work Spotless is a pun. at this time book making wasnt entirely legal but the word spotless is slang for pure and legitimate.

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