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Posted 01 September 2017 - 07:32

As I have several Montblancs with an overlay marked with a "S" and the white star as well as the written "Mont^Blanc" sign I answer your question with: yes, they did.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 17:25

 

Do you think MB would let any jeweller put these two signs on one pen simultaneously?

The "S" ist not a trade mark or sign of Sarastro Industrie or Kinzinger.


I search for all pens and informations made in Pforzheim, e.g. Sarastro, Fend

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 19:50

The "S" ist not a trade mark or sign of Sarastro Industrie or Kinzinger.

 

OK, the "S" is not a trade mark, Dirk, but you do have to agree that the "S" stands for "made by Sarastro", don't you?


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Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:56

Hi Axel

no, I don't agree. In the last 20 years I was not able to find any proof for this. Some early overlays on MB pens in the 1920s are made by Lutz&Weiß, a catalogue from them shows some pens. Bossert&Erhard and Kohler&Schäfer made pens for Montblanc, probably Fend also. But there are no proofs for a connection between MB and Sarastro/Kinzinger. In the years ca. 1960-1986, Sarastro did not made any pens for MB. a former employee told me.

There are Fend pens with the sign "S".

Stefan W. also told me he don't think the pens are from Sarastro.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 15:29

Well, we were talking about the 1920th and 1930th.  I have no idea if Sarastro was still active after WW2.

 

I agree with you that Bossert&Erhard and some other companies - especially around Pforzheim - were working as suppliers for Montblanc. But the question was: 


 

Do you think MB would let any jeweller put these two signs on one pen simultaneously?

 

 

And still the answer is yes and including the official name-sign "Mont^Blanc"


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Montblanc collector since 1968
collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006






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