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#261 penparadise

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Posted 01 September 2017 - 07:32

As I have several Montblancs with an overlay marked with a "S" and the white star as well as the written "Mont^Blanc" sign I answer your question with: yes, they did.


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Posted 12 September 2017 - 17:25

 

Do you think MB would let any jeweller put these two signs on one pen simultaneously?

The "S" ist not a trade mark or sign of Sarastro Industrie or Kinzinger.


I search for all pens and informations made in Pforzheim, e.g. Sarastro, Fend

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Posted 12 September 2017 - 19:50

The "S" ist not a trade mark or sign of Sarastro Industrie or Kinzinger.

 

OK, the "S" is not a trade mark, Dirk, but you do have to agree that the "S" stands for "made by Sarastro", don't you?


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collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:56

Hi Axel

no, I don't agree. In the last 20 years I was not able to find any proof for this. Some early overlays on MB pens in the 1920s are made by Lutz&Weiß, a catalogue from them shows some pens. Bossert&Erhard and Kohler&Schäfer made pens for Montblanc, probably Fend also. But there are no proofs for a connection between MB and Sarastro/Kinzinger. In the years ca. 1960-1986, Sarastro did not made any pens for MB. a former employee told me.

There are Fend pens with the sign "S".

Stefan W. also told me he don't think the pens are from Sarastro.

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Posted 14 September 2017 - 15:29

Well, we were talking about the 1920th and 1930th.  I have no idea if Sarastro was still active after WW2.

 

I agree with you that Bossert&Erhard and some other companies - especially around Pforzheim - were working as suppliers for Montblanc. But the question was: 


 

Do you think MB would let any jeweller put these two signs on one pen simultaneously?

 

 

And still the answer is yes and including the official name-sign "Mont^Blanc"


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collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006

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Posted 23 January 2018 - 20:05

Hmm, what would be the appropriate pencil to come with 139?How about this one!

Not that it's rare but funny companion ;)

MB nr 14 pencil, one of the biggest made.

 

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Posted 24 January 2018 - 23:47

Great pencil, thanks for sharing...

 

I should say, I have never seen a 139 to look that small !



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Posted 28 January 2018 - 23:41

My vote would be for this version of the Pix pencil. Small, but oh so elegant.

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#269 _InkyFingers

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 18:19

My goodness this HBR mot.red is just salivating....

Well, I believe this is a rare one, not easy to find... At least for me it is the first time I see it. It has new cork and restored by a specialist, Osman (some here know him), the best way to homage the pen (and the restorer too) is to add some images in this quite attractive thread... The nib still needs some polishing and it is not going to be long before is done... MB # 45 Meisterstück Safety
 
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 21:09

I have no words. Yum!






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