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Yes, I got another (earlier model) and removed and cleaned the rods. I will do that on this one as well. I do understand it's a dip pen, it's just that from the very first stroke it seems to write very dry, it write a long time with a steady but dry flow. I do think it's may well partially be that I didn't clean out the rods, as you say; and I'm going to try a different nib.

 

 

John,

Try dipping the nib into a bottle of ink, to eliminate the ink well as the problem.

The ink may be too dry for the nib, or the nib may be too dry.

Either switch to a wetter ink, like Waterman, or swap/adjust the nib for a wetter writing nib.

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Plexipens what is this o-ring cord of which you speak? (Kidding I can look it up) but how do you attach it? I spent last evening researching ways to rejuvenate toe old rubber gaskets w/o harming the Bakelite. I came to the conclusion I have to heat the top enough to temporarily soften the rubber to pry it off, then treat the rubber separately.

 

Tom, so a nib that has been sitting should hold substantially more ink?

 

Irrigger, does your 1554 Nib have two little holes at the end of the feed?

 

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Plexipens what is this o-ring cord of which you speak? (Kidding I can look it up) but how do you attach it?

 

 

I don't attach it. Amazon sells O-ring cord stock in wide variety of sizes. I experimented and now use 3/16 silicon (red) cord. Use super glue to attach the cord ends and I use the top of the well to size it. There is a plastic jig that helps align the cord ends flat for gluing.

 

As also stated you can use plumbing gaskets or buy rubber sheet and cut to fit.

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Well sine my nib had not seen service for many years I let it sit so that the ink comb would become somewhat saturated.

 

Once that is done, a quick dipping I should do to then be able to write the normal flow for your particular nib of choice.

 

I enjoyed the exercise perhaps I find a spot of my desk and refer to it more often.

 

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JFB NOS (New Old Stock)

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Thanks everyone!

 

Plexipens, so you use superglue to join the ends of the o-ring-that's what I was wondering about.

 

AC12, I should have thought to check the pen by plain dipping. I'll try that tonight.

 

I'm gonna be a pest about the feed though-I'm still curious about the holes. I'll post a photo when I get the chance.

 

BTW, I just got a NOS green 444 but it was missing the cup and rods. Anyone know anyplace I might find a replacement?

 

Pax,
John

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JFB NOS (New Old Stock)

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So I tried dipping in tan ink bottle and performance was about the same, so I decided to floss the nib and put a bit of pressure on the underside. Major improvement!

 

Here's the notorious nib in question:

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Here's the feed showing the holes I mentioned:

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Here's a writing sample after the adjustments:

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I'm halfway there. ;)

 

Pax,

John

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funny -- I saw this topic, had completely forgotten that I had contributed to it some years ago...

My dipless base and pens came home from the job where I used them and haven't been used since. I pulled them out last night...considering photographing and putting them up for sale. Then I got fond of the set again, now I'm wavering....

 

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You can make replacement rods using monofilament line cut into short pieces. Search for a post I wrote I think last year about repairing a 444. I ended up figuring out a bunch of it and posted links to various resources including an account of how to make new rods.

 

But I have no idea about a replacement cup. If it were me I’d look for a 444 with a chipped lid and buy it cheap for parts.

 

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You can make replacement rods using monofilament line cut into short pieces. Search for a post I wrote I think last year about repairing a 444. I ended up figuring out a bunch of it and posted links to various resources including an account of how to make new rods.

 

But I have no idea about a replacement cup. If it were me I’d look for a 444 with a chipped lid and buy it cheap for parts.

 

AAAndrew,

 

Thanks! I've got one of those chipped lids, so if I decide to use the NOS one I guess that's what I'll have to do.

 

Pax,

John

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