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Hi,

 

As the title says, I have been trying to learn Spencerian Business Writing. I have the books from the IAMPETH website (Mills & Behrensmeyer) but it is quite difficult for me to learn from those books as they lack a full graph of the letter styling, I also have been using caliken's writing sample for tracing, which is good for learning the movements but not the letters. In school I was taught d'Nealian, and I recently retaught myself that so I could get the hang of cursive again, using sheets like this:

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I find that I learn cursive much better with sheets like these, so is it possible to get my hands on anything like that for Spencerian B.W.?

Thanks so much

Josh :)

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The practice sheets look great, but the nearest I've seen aren't quite the same: Michael Sull's practice sheets at John Neal Booksellers. Link to John Neal page

 

Thanks for your reply, :)

 

Just to be absolutely certain, these sheets do teach Business Writing right? I just want to be sure as 15.00 is a lot of money for practice sheets!

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Is this what you're looking for?

 

It's part of this file: Ames Guide (Ames Guide to Self-Instruction in Practical & Artistic Penmanship)

 

This may also be on IAMPETH. P.S. IAMPETH has a lot of free guide sheets! Go to sticky at the top of this forum for Handwriting Aids.

 

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Is this what you're looking for?

 

It's part of this file: Ames Guide (Ames Guide to Self-Instruction in Practical & Artistic Penmanship)

 

This may also be on IAMPETH. P.S. IAMPETH has a lot of free guide sheets! Go to sticky at the top of this forum for Handwriting Aids.

 

Karen

 

Hi Karen, Thanks for your reply,

 

No thats not what I am looking for, what I am trying to find is something that lists all the letters - Uppercase and Lowercase. In the Spencerian B.W. style. But this will be helpful when I start practicing whole words! :D

 

-Josh

 

 

 

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Just to be absolutely certain, these sheets do teach Business Writing right?

These practice sheets are described as being for Spencerian Script.

 

Business Writing developed from Spencerian Script but as there are no shaded strokes in Business Writing, it can be written with any fine round-tipped nib.

 

The excellent examples and sources cited by Vidalia are, however, for Spencerian Script.

 

On the IAMPETH site, you will see many examples of beautiful Business Writing under the heading of "Rare Books".

 

Spend a bit of time on this site, and you will find out all there is to know about Business Writing.

 

Look in particular, for the examples by Edward C Mills as they are arguably the finest ever written. His book "Modern Business Penmanship" can be download off the IAMPETH site.

 

Also, it's worth buying a copy of "F. W. Tamblyn's Home Instuctor in Penmanship" for excellent Business Writing instructions.

 

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Just to be absolutely certain, these sheets do teach Business Writing right?

These practice sheets are described as being for Spencerian Script.

 

Business Writing developed from Spencerian Script but as there are no shaded strokes in Business Writing, it can be written with any fine round-tipped nib.

 

The excellent examples and sources cited by Vidalia are, however, for Spencerian Script.

 

On the IAMPETH site, you will see many examples of beautiful Business Writing under the heading of "Rare Books".

 

Spend a bit of time on this site, and you will find out all there is to know about Business Writing.

 

Look in particular, for the examples by Edward C Mills as they are arguably the finest ever written. His book "Modern Business Penmanship" can be download off the IAMPETH site.

 

Also, it's worth buying a copy of "F. W. Tamblyn's Home Instuctor in Penmanship" for excellent Business Writing instructions.

 

caliken

 

Thanks caliken for your reply,

 

Thanks for clearing that up with the practice sheets! I have downloaded Edward C. Mills book and that is what I have been attempting to learn from, all of his examples are simply astounding! However, it does lack a full chart of the letters like I said in my earlier posts. I looked up the "F. W. Tamblyn's Home Instructor in Penmanship" and it looks exactly what I am looking for! :D

 

 

Thanks so much,

 

-Josh

 

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The Ames book I referenced has several entire alphabets since it's an instruction manual. As caliken said, this is spencerian since it's shaded. But Ames is using it for business purposes.

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It makes me very happy to see you guys using the resources on the IAMPETH website.

 

Best regards to one and all.

 

James Ivey

IAMPETH Webmaster

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Interested in pointed-pen calligraphy and penmanship?

 

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http://www.iampeth.com/videos.php How-to Videos

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Maybe the Mott media copybooks is what your looking for. Search for "Spencerian Penmanship" by Platt Rogers Spencer at Amazon or your favorite bookstore. I find it quite rewarding if there's a visible progress from first to last line of a page.

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This is found on page 16 of Palmer's 1919 Penmanship Budget... enjoy :)

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It makes me very happy to see you guys using the resources on the IAMPETH website.

 

Best regards to one and all.

 

James Ivey

IAMPETH Webmaster

www.IAMPETH.com

 

 

James, just so you know... IAMPETH rocks. :) I have spent many a pleasant and productive hour absorbed in its resources, and can't thank you enough for making it available! Twenty-five years ago, when I was young and doing starter calligraphy, I had only an old Speedball book to go by -- just look at all there is now! What you are doing with IAMPETH is a wonderful thing. Thank you again! :)

Not really a scribe, more of a Pharisee...

 

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

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This is found on page 16 of Palmer's 1919 Penmanship Budget... enjoy :)

 

Oooh nice :) Thanks so much Daisy! :D

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Glad I could help! I've been working on the same thing you are, using Mills as my primary guide, and happened to remember where it was -- I remember having to look for the full chart as well and being amazed it wasn't slapped across the front page. I always thought that strange, but both Mills' and Palmer's initial emphasis was much more on posture, pen hold and movement so I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise that the full chart was buried as deeply as it was. They *really* want you to practice the squigglies and such like before you make a letter. :)

 

BTW, here's a link to the actual page on IAMPETH.

 

Good luck with your efforts!!!

Not really a scribe, more of a Pharisee...

 

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

-- Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

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I know this thread is old, sorry!

 

I am practicing using E.C. Mills Business Penmanship as well. I have downloaded the PDF. I found on plate 66 the list of the capital letters which is very helpful.

 

I have not been able to find a page that lists all the lower case letters though. It would be helpful to have both for reference.

 

Since the IAMPETH site has been beautifully redesigned (it looks so amazing!) the links now no longer work and I can't see what the picture may have been.

 

If anyone has a link, a picture, or anything like a pdf, word doc, etc. that they can email me, if they can't attach it here, it would be very helpful to have.

 

Thank you for your help! :)

Tessy Moon



My thoughts are filled with beautiful words for the King, and I will use my voice as a writer would use pen and ink. Psalm 45:1


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I found this very helpful book on IAMPETH. It may not be exactly the same as business penmanship, but it appears quite similar to me on many of the letters and the forms.

 

I hope this will help others too. I really like how it explains how to make each letter step by step. Quite useful!

 

And I enjoyed reading about what degree to hold your paper, and the degrees for the slants as well. :)

 

 

Lessons in Practical Penmanship by H.P. Behrensmeyer

 

 

on IAMPETH

 

http://www.iampeth.com/pdf/lessons-practical-penmanship

 

 

 

the pdf

 

https://ia601407.us.archive.org/20/items/LessonsInPracticalPenmanship/Lessons%20in%20Practical%20Penmanship.pdf

Tessy Moon



My thoughts are filled with beautiful words for the King, and I will use my voice as a writer would use pen and ink. Psalm 45:1


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