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Lamy 2000 Vs Pelikan M200


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#21 encremental

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 11:11

In the UK at least, the 2000 is more than twice the price of a M200, e.g. £116 vs £52 at The Writing Desk! Are they really the same price in the U.S. :yikes: Over here, the M400, or maybe an M200 with gold nib would be more on a level.

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Posted 28 November 2010 - 15:43

Far Eastern vendors have L- 2000 at your price-point....Pel M200 clear blu with a polished steel italic nib is also a consideration...at < 80$.I like the easy nib swap Pel for that reason only. The 2000 is just so smooth...I use a broad nib all day in mine. If u haven't been to the gym in a while, the "twislestick" will give you all you can handle...it's humongous size coupled with it's off balancing act is not my c-o-t. I'm also wondering about it's longevity...if you break it down to flush out every last drop... every time you handle those parts...there are skin oils that take a ride on those parts...hum.

#23 Dr Lopez

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 00:02

I wouldn't go so far as to say TWSBI is better than the L2K, but it is VERY nice. Just a shame it doesn't post nicely.


I fully agree, but for the price it is the best buy I can see at the moment. You can have it for $40 and given the size you do not really need to post it. It does not post comfortably for me either.
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Pelikan 400 Brown Tortoise/14K Fine/J. Herbin Cafe des Iles
Lamy 2000/14K Medium/Lamy Blue-Black
Sailor 1911 Large burgundy/21K Naginata Togi Medium/Diamine Oxblood
Montblanc 146/14K Fine/Montblanc Racing Green
Rosetta blue/Steel Pendelton cursive italic/Pelikan Royal Blue
Delta Passion/18K Broad/Diamine Syrah

#24 piembi

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Posted 29 November 2010 - 10:04

This is a nice review of two workhorse pens.

A M200 replaced my lost M250 :crybaby: and got me through the second half of university until I replaced it's nib with a 14K nib. Still have the pen. The only reason I replace the steel nibs is the plating. Don't like the look of a well worn, no longer gold plated steel nib.

I do love the OM nib of my favourite L2K. It's one of my best nibs. Wet, buttery smooth and springy. IMO the L2K is the very pen if you are looking for a high quality affordable piston filler with a 14K nib. The only downside is the slippery section. This is the reason why I prefer using the Pelikan (vintage, M400, M2xx).

It's easy to replace the nib of a L2K. It's basically the same than the Lamy 27. I disassemble both pens when I receive them (my L2Ks are pre owned) and switch nibs once in a while.

Edited by piembi, 29 November 2010 - 15:35.


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Posted 29 November 2010 - 11:37

In my opinion the L2K has a wonderful feature: its "tactile" feedback. I mean the makrolon stuff. It's outstanding an unique, not slippery, not rough, perfect !! :notworthy1:

I miss a larger ink window and a sleek-threaded cap. Then it could easily become my favourite pen.

Just my 2cents.

Edited by Faulkner, 29 November 2010 - 11:38.


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Posted 01 December 2010 - 06:35

So, where might we find the L2K for $89? Curious... :)

pengallery.com :)

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Posted 01 December 2010 - 08:26

Amir: Thank you for writing probably one of the most relevant articles published on FPN in years. Too bad the review index is in absolute chaos. Otherwise, I'd put this right at the top.

Edited by ToasterPastry, 01 December 2010 - 08:26.

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#28 fabrimedeiros

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Posted 02 December 2010 - 00:52

[...] Too bad the review index is in absolute chaos. [...]




It's a pity that review index is in absolute chaos indeed!! :unsure:

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:15

Can someone please tell me what you mean by "posting"?
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 09:11

Putting the cap on the bottom of the pen is posting.

#31 watch_art

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 12:41

you call it bottom, I call it the back, :P but yeah, sticking it on the other end so you don't have to hold on to it in your other hand.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 02:35

Putting the cap on the bottom of the pen is posting.

Ahhh..thank you - what an interesting term for it
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 14:31

my take:

lamy is more bang for your buck
pel is more bling for your buck

chose accordingly.

I would gladly recommend the lamy over the old m600 I had. and not just "for the money", but in absolute terms. that it costs considerably less is just a bonus.
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 15:46

I just have 2 questions in this comparison:
1. Which nib is smoother? Pelikan or Lamy?
2. Which nib gives greater line variation? Pelikan or Lamy?

Everything else seem subjective as to which is better. In Canada, the LAMY 2000 retails for $220 compared to $120 of the M200, so I can forgive the M200 for being a steel nib vs the 14K nib of the Lamy. But the smoothness and line variation to me would determine the better pen.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 15:50

From my experience, they're both nearly equally smooth. A lot of that depends on the ink you're using and the paper you're writing on. A smooth pen can feel toothy on certain papers, even more so with certain inks. I think it all comes down to which pen you'd rather look at and hold when you're writing or drawing. And for me, it's the l2k. But the pel 200 I had was that fugly blue stuff, if I had had a black one, I probably wouldn't have sold it.

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 14:04

I just have 2 questions in this comparison:
1. Which nib is smoother? Pelikan or Lamy?
2. Which nib gives greater line variation? Pelikan or Lamy?

Everything else seem subjective as to which is better. In Canada, the LAMY 2000 retails for $220 compared to $120 of the M200, so I can forgive the M200 for being a steel nib vs the 14K nib of the Lamy. But the smoothness and line variation to me would determine the better pen.


I live in Canada too and for me retail prices are not an issue as I will not buy any pen in Canada!!!
Why would I pay double for a same pen I can get from online from stores like pen gallery, I sell pen, Oscar Brown, Pen Time...etc
Online the price difference between the two pens is 20$ so money is not an issue to me in this case.
Which nib is smoother ?
As I said they are equaly smooth only the Lamy's nib has much more feedback.
Line variation ?
Both nibs are stiff so I think you should consider other pens if flexiblily is what you aiming for.

Edited by goodguy, 12 December 2010 - 14:06.

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#37 jsroe

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:16

By line variation I mean springiness. My M200 fine nib exhibits springiness, more so than a lot of nibs in it's price range, yielding a small amount of line variation and shading to slight pressure when writing giving some character. Is the Lamy nib springy too?

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:42

my 14k lamy xf nib is pretty stiff. i aquired a steel xf nib (more of xxf) for this pen which is QUITE soft. quite a bit of line variation if i push gently. Pretty cool. i'll upload scans later. tomorrow when the kids are napping perhaps.

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Posted 23 December 2010 - 06:50

Does anybody know how the M200, M205 and M250 compare in terms of weight?


200 - 13 grams
205 - 16 grams
250 - 25 grams

(according to my sources) also the 200 is nice hair thinner than the 205. (IMHO).

@ general thread: i find lamy nibs to write better than pelikan ( at least the 2xx series ) nibs.
also, the 2000 is painfully large in hand, comparatively.

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Posted 26 December 2010 - 21:21

Long live Lamy 2000!

p.s.It would be awesome if Richard Binder sells them!

Edited by coppilcus, 26 December 2010 - 21:22.







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