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Lamy 2000 Vs Pelikan M200
Posted 27 November 2010 - 04:03
For the longest time I was dreaming to compare the 2 best pens for under 100$.
Again and again arouses this question and at last I got my hand on the 2 leading pens in this category.
These two pens are the Pelikan M200 and the Lamy 2000.
Both have a lot in common
3.Ink view window
But there are differences which I will discuss in this review.
Both very elegant pens.
Pelikan pens are well recognized, all these pens look a like and differ in small details, trims and sizes starting with the tiny 300, small 150 then 200, 400, 600, 800 and the big 1000.
They also come in different colours, the classic green, red, black and blue and then there are some special models with white and other colours.
The Lamy 2000 just like the Ford model T comes with any colour you like as long as itís black.
It has a more modern design to it which looks very pleasing and ergonomic to the eye.
Both have ink view windows but the one on the Pelikan is much bigger and thus much better in telling the amount of ink in the pen.
Both pens will post easily and securly for those who like to write with their pens posted.
The Pelikan is much smaller but to my complete shock once you take the cap off the actual pen is almost the same size of the Lamy.
Both pens are light weight, the Pelikan might be a bit lighter but not by much.
Clear winner here, the Lamy is by far the better pen, it looks and feels better.
Attention to details and material feels more solid.
Both use pistons and they are equally smooth.
Both hold a good amount of ink.
Nothing much to add here, both wonderful!!!
Here is where the approaches are much different.
Pelikans nibs are very standard looking with the wonderful advantage of being able to screw the nib in and out.
You can buy different nib sizes and replace them easily, great advantage for those who like to use different nib sizes for different occasions.
I never changed a nib on my Lamy and so I canít tell you how easy it is but I heard this shouldnít be too complicated, never the less I am sure the Pelikans approach is much easier and friendlier.
Lamy is using the semi hooded nib configuration, not very common but very effective.
The M200ís nib is made of gold plated steel with Pelikan logo on it.
The Lamy 2000 has a 14K solid gold nib that is covered with a white metal so for almost the same price its nice to have a piece of gold at the end of the pen.
Both nibs are stiff and the Pelikans XF nib is almost wide as a regular F nib its very smooth and nicely responsive, a wonderful nib by all standards.
Lamyís nib is F and looks almost as wide as the Pelikans, itís as smooth as the Pelikan but has much more feedback to it so for me there is no doubt I like the Lamyís nib better.
These are 2 pens which anyone who want a good pen for under 100$ should consider.
Both are German made, very reliable, piston filled but has different designs and small price difference.
I like the Lamyís design slightly more because it looks fresher and more ergonomic.
I like the ink view window on the Pelikan more because itís easier to see the ink in it.
I like the slip cap on the Lamy more then the standard screw cap on the M200.
I like the fact itís so easy to replace the nib on the Pelikan and each extra nib will only cost 25$
The Lamy has a spring loaded clip compared to the standard clip on the Pelikan, itís not a big practical difference but I still like the Lamy clip better.
Lamy nib is simply more fun. Nothing wrong about the Pelikan nib its silky smooth with good feedback but the Lamyís nib is simply more fun.
Bottom line, I thought I will brush off the Pelikan due to its size but it really is much bigger then it looks.
Itís a brilliant pen and will cost 20$ less then the 89$ you need to pay for the Lamy but I still would choose the Lamy in an instant.
The overall quality is better, I like a bit more the design, the fact there is real gold at the end of the pen and the pure fun of the nib pushes this pen ahead for me and I think makes this pen worth double and triple its value and for sure the 20$ extra you need to add on the Pelikan.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 04:53
Great comparison and I agree 100%. Lamy all day long. And it would be SUPER EASY to change nibs if you wanted to. Can you even buy just the nibs though?
Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:11
The one thing that the Pel has going for it that hurts the Lamy, in my opinion, is the lighter cap. The clip on the Lamy is just too heavy in my opinion. I've never had a pen where the orientation of the clip made SUCH a difference in the way it felt when writing posted. The pel didn't matter as far as clip orientation. It felt fine posted.
Funny you should say that. I just discovered recently that posting the Lamy 2000 made for a smoother writing experience for me - something that was unexpected for me.
Does anybody know how the M200, M205 and M250 compare in terms of weight?
Posted 27 November 2010 - 05:13
This is interesting, because I've always found the Pelikan M200 nibs to be springier and more responsive than the nibs on the Lamy 2000. Others can give more info on this.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 08:19
You missed my choice...TWSBI Diamoind 530.
At last I did it, I am so happy.
For the longest time I was dreaming to compare the 2 best pens for under 100$.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 09:27
Posted 27 November 2010 - 13:42
Thanks for that great review!
Posted 27 November 2010 - 13:49
On to the review, I haven't had the Lamy yet, but personally, I prefer the look of the Pelikan more than the Lamy, even without the 14K nib. By the by, thumbs up for the TWSBI Diamond 530.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 14:37
Comparison report from the owener of both FPs are always a great value.
Writing sample will be a great added value.
Edited by Sunburst, 27 November 2010 - 14:41.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 15:06
Pelikan 400 Brown Tortoise/14K Fine/J. Herbin Cafe des Iles
Lamy 2000/14K Medium/Lamy Blue-Black
Sailor 1911 Large burgundy/21K Naginata Togi Medium/Diamine Oxblood
Montblanc 146/14K Fine/Montblanc Racing Green
Rosetta blue/Steel Pendelton cursive italic/Pelikan Royal Blue
Delta Passion/18K Broad/Diamine Syrah
Posted 27 November 2010 - 15:14
Posted 27 November 2010 - 15:56
Myself, I think the Lamy comes out on top. I like the look, and the Lamy nib, aside from being 14K (a treat in this price range), has some character whereas the M200 nib while competent is quite vanilla.
A couple of other observations:
I'd say since going to the all metal section the 2000 is now a medium weight pen vs the light weight of the M200.
The sweeping statement regarding quality concerned me. I think the Lamy is better at giving an overall impression of quality. It gets a very real head start with the 14K nib, but beyond that the impression is more subjective than something you can measure. I think the 2000 just does a better job of looking like what it's trying to look like. It's trying to look like a streamlined modestly priced functional writing instrument and that's what it is. The M200 while very pretty can look a bit cheesey if your suspension of disbelief breaks ... then all of a sudden the faux marble looks naff instead of pretty, and the overly yellow gold plated nib looks blatantly plated instead of gold. The M200 is trying to look a little higher end than it actually is, and that can detract from the impression of quality it gives. However, if quality is in terms of tolerances and longevity ... I'd hesitate to declare a winner without backing data ... or at least three really entertaining anecdotes
Edited by rollerboy, 27 November 2010 - 15:58.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 18:14
I call mine a redneck two-tone
edit: Here are a few links regarding the plating loss:
Edited by PianoMan14, 27 November 2010 - 18:19.
Void your warranty, violate a user agreement, fry a circuit, blow a fuse, poke an eye out!
Posted 27 November 2010 - 18:58
Posted 27 November 2010 - 19:02
Check out my wish list on my profile.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 19:48
So, where might we find the L2K for $89? Curious...
I'm getting one for Christmas and it was ordered through Pengallery.com and ended up being $105 shipped. I believe Melpens.com also has the 2000 for the same price.
Posted 27 November 2010 - 20:10
Posted 27 November 2010 - 21:45
Current lineup in play:
PELIKAN 400NN (OB) & (F) M600 (M), AURORA 88 (M), CROSS ATX (M) TOWNSEND (M), OSMIROID 75 (M), TWSBI 530 (F),
Posted 28 November 2010 - 00:58
+ Pel 200: you can buy it from Richard Binder, who tunes the nibs. My Binderized 200 has a softness when the nib touches paper
+ L2K shape is superb looking, but
- L2K: the brushed steel section is slippery. I finally gummed mine with some nail polish, and that helps, but
+ Pel 200 for the "collar" at the bottom of the section
- grip on both: L2K's "fingers" are irritating; on the Pel 200, my index finger runs across the threads. Also irritating.
Edited by welch, 28 November 2010 - 00:58.
Posted 28 November 2010 - 08:34