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I'd consider purchasing a gold nib at around $70, but not much more. The complete pen at around $110 might also sell pretty well without any other upgrades, but I don't see a market waiting for a $280 TWSBI right now under any circumstances. Someone else mentioned that the Lamy 2000 has a gold nib and piston filler for around $105 (a week ago I saw that pen on a couple of sites for only $89), IMHO you'd need to be at roughly the same price point to be competitive.

OTOH, a greater selection of nibs would be a good idea. Increasing the steel nib selection to include broad nibs and stubs would probably be step in the right direction and the Ti nibs seem to be the best way to offer flex without the cost of gold. Gold may be a good idea down the road, but stick with the current plans for things like colors and ink windows first, bring out the vac filler and add a few more nib choices. These improvements will help TWSBI gain market exposure, increase sales volume and bring down those economies of scale.

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I'm not interested in a gold nib or a more upscale body for many of the reasons that other have already noted.

 

But, I might well be interested in a Ti nibbed 530 for something in the internet price range of a Lamy 2000, i.e. $90-120. I know that the Lamy has a gold nib and possibly because of material costs should be more expensive than a Ti 530, but as far as I know, at around $100 it would be the most affordable Ti nibbed pen available. That IMHO, stays with TWSBI's image of giving better value than other brands.

 

I do understand that it might be hard to get a Ti nib to fit the current 530, but it might be worth giving it a try.

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A gold nib has no real appeal to me.

 

The initial price of the 530 was a draw but the UK customs/postoffice scam inflated the price considerably. If you could set up an EU outlet to dispatch pens from they would be much more appealing to Europeans.

It seems the distribution profit is blocking the European distributor taking the pen, The price structure of this pen does not allow me to give them what they expect. But it also seems no one understand fix profit amount can be

1. small volume x high price or

2. high volume x lower price

all the commodity item has lower profit rate.

Really? But you do have an American distribution point don't you? Are the Europeans really that greedy? Oh and +1000 votes for flex.

sorry I did not make it clear before, at the moment both Europe and US has same issue. I am still learning how to convince some of the interesting distributors

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Speedy, I hope you realize that gold alone does not produce a flexible nib. In fact, there do exist fairly flexible steel nibs. So, jusst by supplying users with gold nibs, you might not be giving them any increased flexibility over the steel nib.

 

Where I can get the flexible steel nib? I would love to get it for you.

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Speedy, I do SEO/Web Consulting for a living. I'm shooting you an email regarding an e-commerce store. I took a quick look at GouletPens.com and in 10 sec. I can already tell you what e-commerce store/solution/template he is using. I have good experience using the e-commerce he is, and IMHO, it's a fantastic choice. I know disney, motorola, and some other big players are using that e-commerce solution as well.

 

There are free options for you to start off with as well. You can combine a blog/forum/e-commerce rather easily, and for free (if you have web server space).... but the only issue going that route is it makes it harder in the future to upgrade to a more suitable solution should your company grow (which think all of us here hopes it does).

i spend whold day yesterday doing homework searching ecommerce platform, found a very usefule website

http://web-services.toptenreviews.com/internet-ecommerce/ end up that

#1 forum service : IP Board

#1 blog service : wordpress

#1 shipping cart service : Big Commerce

TWSBI will need combination of three of them, prepare for futrue growing. keep searching, eventually found

CMS (Content Management System), it contain almost everything you need for build up your company website

#1 CMS service : eZ Publish

 

I am still researcing, eventually I will need some experience people to give me advise and help me build up the website.

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Honestly, if you think about it, the TWSBI is just a Taiwanese copy of the Pel m8xx.

So, as JakeLogan said, if you are willing to pay that much (280 USD maybe?), why not just get an m800?

Based on the turnout of the Diamond 530's nib, I wouldn't trust the quality of a gold TWSBI nib to be excellent, rather nail-like, expressionless, and small.

Therefore, if you are willing to spend almost 280 dollars on a fake taiwanese copy with a terrible nib, why not just go the extra 50 dollars and buy a pel 800?

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These forums we are on now are IP Board.

 

I believe CMS is the best way as well. The CMS you mentioned I would avoid though. I think that most other web consultants would agree with me, there are only 3 CMS's you should consider. Wordpress, Joomla, and Drupal; in that order of difficulty to learn.

 

Being new to it, I'd suggest wordpress for it's ease. Most feel it's straight blogging. This is not true. It was built on a blogging platform but is a powerful CMS as well. If you plan to grow bigger (which you do) the best CMS is probably Joomla. You can combine joomla and wordpress as well. Not to mention you could load IP Board on your server and just have one page as your blog (wordpress or joomla), e-commerce (wordpress or joomla), and forum (wordpress, joomla, or IP Board). There are a ton of fantastic options to work with.

 

Strictly e-commerce speaking I like Volusion the best, instead of the one you mentioned. Volusion also happens to be the e-commerce that gouletpens is using now as well. Could use store.Twsbi.com as the URL. Having Twsbi.com the blog/info URL.

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Honestly, if you think about it, the TWSBI is just a Taiwanese copy of the Pel m8xx.

So, as JakeLogan said, if you are willing to pay that much (280 USD maybe?), why not just get an m800?

Based on the turnout of the Diamond 530's nib, I wouldn't trust the quality of a gold TWSBI nib to be excellent, rather nail-like, expressionless, and small.

Therefore, if you are willing to spend almost 280 dollars on a fake taiwanese copy with a terrible nib, why not just go the extra 50 dollars and buy a pel 800?

 

I am hearing like only Mercedes Benz (invent the first car) or Henry Ford (Model T first mass production car) can build automobile, all the rest are fake copy.

I don't know who invent the TV, but so from Sony to Vizio are all fake copy. right?

I don't know what car or TV you are using.

Oh, by the way, all the Apple are build by cheap Taiwanese factory

I don't know what pen you are using, but be careful, maybe including one made by me (as OEM project)

Oh, for years, the new owner of Pelikan is a cheap Chinese like me, but he live in Malysia though.

 

On Diamond 530 the only parts not made by TWSBI is the nib set, including nib feeder and feeder housing, they are from famous German Schmidt.

Don't blame on Schmidt, because he also got his nib from other German nib maker.

 

I am going to get gold nib from Bock,

for your information, many other brand name pen company also get nib from him, that maybe including...

 

This is the first time and last time I will reply the comment like this.

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For vintage steel flexy nibs, look at vintage Japanese Shiro nibs and the semi-flexible Esterbrook 9028 nibs.

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After Speedy's instructional video on how to remove the nib (essentially, just grab the nib and the feed and pull it out), I was able to replace out the Schmidt nib for a vintage gold nib (Pencraft, 14K). It took a couple of nibs, and a bit of adjustment. However, I now have a $200 pen for $40. What does the gold nib give me: 1) A bit of a warmer feeling on the paper; 2) The ability to place very narrow lines with hardly any pressure; 3) Various line widths in a semi-flexible nib. I'll offer to demonstrate writing samples and pictures upon request.

 

Some people would prefer buying the complete $280 pen to carry around as a status symbol. I would love to buy various parts and hot-rod an existing pen. My idea embodies the TWSBI company philosophy.

 

For example, I find that the Schmidt nibs are too small for the pen. The pen needs a larger nib to give it a better balance. However, the feed, feed-assembly, and cap are all designed around the Schmidt nib. So I can't just shove an oversized nib into the pen. It would be neat if I could purchase a larger feed-assembly, feed and cap, and place one of those oversized acre-of-gold Sheaffer Lifetime nibs into the pen.

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After Speedy's instructional video on how to remove the nib (essentially, just grab the nib and the feed and pull it out), I was able to replace out the Schmidt nib for a vintage gold nib (Pencraft, 14K). It took a couple of nibs, and a bit of adjustment. However, I now have a $200 pen for $40. What does the gold nib give me: 1) A bit of a warmer feeling on the paper; 2) The ability to place very narrow lines with hardly any pressure; 3) Various line widths in a semi-flexible nib. I'll offer to demonstrate writing samples and pictures upon request.

 

Some people would prefer buying the complete $280 pen to carry around as a status symbol. I would love to buy various parts and hot-rod an existing pen. My idea embodies the TWSBI company philosophy.

 

For example, I find that the Schmidt nibs are too small for the pen. The pen needs a larger nib to give it a better balance. However, the feed, feed-assembly, and cap are all designed around the Schmidt nib. So I can't just shove an oversized nib into the pen. It would be neat if I could purchase a larger feed-assembly, feed and cap, and place one of those oversized acre-of-gold Sheaffer Lifetime nibs into the pen.

Wow, congratulation, I wish I had the old gold nib like you had.

When changing to larger size nib, be careful the total section length maybe too long to fit into the inner cap, unless you take the inner cap off, that's why with larger nib, Diamond 750 is needed (with longer cap...) unfortunately 750 project is still waiting alone the line.

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Also I should ask Bock to sell me some stainless steel nib in other size,

we have EF, F, M already, should add B, Stub, others??

 

The different between Italic and Stub is Stub has rounded edges, correct? in this case Stub should be more usable for general user isn't it?

I would be all over a Stub, or a Cursive Italic. somewhere around 1.1mm...

 

+1 on that!

 

 

 

 

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Also I should ask Bock to sell me some stainless steel nib in other size,

we have EF, F, M already, should add B, Stub, others??

 

The different between Italic and Stub is Stub has rounded edges, correct? in this case Stub should be more usable for general user isn't it?

I would be all over a Stub, or a Cursive Italic. somewhere around 1.1mm...

 

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The different between Italic and Stub is Stub has rounded edges, correct? in this case Stub should be more usable for general user isn't it?

Yes.

 

I believe Richard Binder uses a progression something like this:

Sharp italic : sharp enough to cut paper if you don't use it correctly - take care when writing. Good for calligraphers. Thick lines in one direction, hair-thin lines in another.

Cursive italic : good for reasonably fast writing, slightly rounded corners may dig into paper if you aren't careful - may require a little practice.

Stub italic (stub) : rounded corners, less but still some line variation, should be able to write as fast as any round nib with little or no practice.

 

Also I should ask Bock to sell me some stainless steel nib in other size,

we have EF, F, M already, should add B, Stub, others??

I would be all over a Stub, or a Cursive Italic. somewhere around 1.1mm...

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I love Richard Binder article about nib, everyone should read it

 

http://www.richardspens.com/?page=ref/nibs/primer.htm#problems

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Also I should ask Bock to sell me some stainless steel nib in other size,

we have EF, F, M already, should add B, Stub, others??

 

The different between Italic and Stub is Stub has rounded edges, correct? in this case Stub should be more usable for general user isn't it?

I would be all over a Stub, or a Cursive Italic. somewhere around 1.1mm...

 

+2

And not necessarily out of gold... My 1.1 Broad Italic Duofold is so rigid it could easily be made out of steel.

 

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