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Iranna

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Hi everyone,

 

Can anyone tell the model and possible era of this pen? Its ink window is stained with blue ink (looks like the window is originally greenish- now it's a dirty yellow) and the nib is abused and clearly not original. It's got a lion head and the text "Warranted 14 K 585". Some days ago someone posted a topic with a mystery Pelikan lookalike with a nib resembling this one, but the pen itself is a little different.

 

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/Iranna/pelikan.jpg

 

Here's a close-up of the poor dirty stained nib:

 

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/Iranna/nib-1.jpg

 

Here's the cap and a photo showing the Pelikan logo:

 

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/Iranna/cap.jpg

 

http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/Iranna/caplogo.jpg

 

I'm not sure about the filling system but it seems to be a button. I'm not very knowledgeable about old pens and filling systems. The top of the pen unscrews and reveals a hole. There seems to be something stuck in there. It's clearly broken. I realise now I should've taken a picture of that too...

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It seems that the piston filler rod sheared ... or some part of it broke, leaving the hole you described. This can probably be fixed.

 

The nib is not original, but when cleaned up and repaired at the tip, will make a nice vintage nib however it is used in the future. It appears clean and straight.

 

The body of the pen appears to be a 101N ... someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Best of luck! Seems like a great project pen!

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Looks to be a pre-WW2 100N with a black barrel and a non-original nib. The cap that unscrews on the back is actually the piston knob and should attached to as spindle that sounds as though it's now down in the hole! Well worth getting repaired as the black pens tend to be more rare than the green and grey striated versions.

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It looks to me somehow in the 100s Pelikan family, but I am not expert to be able to tell year/model variation. Fixing the piston filler should not be too big of a deal, if all it happened is that the piston knob got undone. The nib is kind of nice, it is probably a replacement nib, a European "Warranted" nib I would say. I saw german nibs coming with a buffalo and a goat imprinted. This one has a lion head. It is a nice pen. Get it fixed and in working conditions. If you want to get rid of it, let me know ;)

 

 

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That nib should be from the "Rupp" company from Heidelberg (Germany), I've seen some of those with that lion head logo (sometimes slightly different lion heads), they can be found in different pens from that era.

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Thanks to everyone for your kind and informative replies. And rhr2010, no I'm not going to get rid of it. ;) Now I have a new question: can you recommend a European repair person?

 

 

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Hei

 

That nib should be from the "Rupp" company from Heidelberg (Germany), I've seen some of those with that lion head logo (sometimes slightly different lion heads), they can be found in different pens from that era.

+1: Peter Rupp did produce nibs for a number of different pen makers after the collapse of Kaweco company

 

T: JLML

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I have a F-1 flexible Rupp nib, it came on a no name black and gold cracked ice.

 

It's gold all it needs is some polishing up....Keep the nib, it's period...more or less.

 

The man was able to make nibs with Deguas(Sp) Bock, Soennecken, MB, Pelikan, Osmia and many others making nibs too, so he had to be doing ok for a small firm.

You don't make fly by night nibs in gold.

 

As soon as you got it aligned, you 95% have semi-flex or even slightly Flexible.

 

Get the pen fixed, the nib is a good one.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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I need help to identify a fountain pen. Bought it last week, 45 USD.

No brand name, but a bison(?) in a circle with 14K-585 at the top of the circle.

At the bottom of the nib it is possible to read something like OSMIUM-POINT.

The pen is made of silver - 900 or 902/5?

Well, who has made this pen, when, where ...?

(Sorry, when trying to post this question with a photo of the pen, I am not allowed to do so because of the extension, what ever that might mean!?)

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PaulO2

 
































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The nib with the bison is probably a Bock. See this thread:

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/327645-nib-identification/?do=findComment&comment=3922227

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chiefly used to facilitate the infection of idiocy and promote intellectual crime.

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