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it arrives today..... so is it real or fake?????

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Kaych Extremely Rare

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Fake. Genuine Montblanc pens of the Meisterstuck line are neither metal nor cartridge/converter fillers. Sorry bud!

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by the way.... there is Pix word under the cap which is under the clip of the pen... more pics

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Really? The pen in question is a model 145, or Chopin, designed as a C/C filler. The modern 144 Classique is a C/C filler. The 147 Traveller is a cartridge filled pen. There are numerous C/C fillers of the late 60s and 70s vintages.

 

So give us some facts...

 

In fact, as I see the photos, I see no major concerns for the pen except for the minor feeder case crack.

 

Fake. Genuine Montblanc pens of the Meisterstuck line are neither metal nor cartridge/converter fillers. Sorry bud!

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quote from finerpointz, ebay seller about the 145.

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/Montblanc-Mont-Blanc-Meisterstuck-P145-145-Fountain-Pen-/350274984029?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item518e04185d

About the Pen

This newly designed 145 replaces the older 144 version and is slightly larger than the Classique size fountain pen but retains the same piston converter filling system which allows for optional use of ink cartridges.

 

 

 

The cap uses a twist on mechanism and both barrel and cap are made of Montblanc's signature jet-black precious resin trimmed with three platinum-plated rings and the world recognized Montblanc white star. Platinum plated clip on barrel is printed with the pen's Individual Serial Number and Germany, and the underside has Pix printed.

 

The nib is hand-crafted 14 karat gold (575) with Platinum inlay.

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anyone have a piston convertor that i may compare to??? thankz.... sorry for causing so much trouble...

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The photos give nib the appearance of less than MB quality engraving; nib appears "cheap". Please do the 'flashlight test' that will, if precious resin used for barrel, show that barrel glows ruby red...or not

Although I appreciate the seller's descriptions of pen, it has been noted that some sellers write untruths...they lie. Please do not misunderstand my opinion as meaning to impugn the integrity of Finerpointz(the seller)

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I have the Chopin and this looks just like it. Those saying it is a fake do not seem to be familiar with the smaller size MB pens...

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anyone have a piston convertor that i may compare to??? thankz.... sorry for causing so much trouble...

 

Pen is real....

 

Go to the MB web site and compare pictures..... search Ebay for other Chopin's and look at those pics...

 

If in doubt...send the pen back..go to a MB Boutique and buy the Chopin there.

 

Rick

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The photos give nib the appearance of less than MB quality engraving; nib appears "cheap". Please do the 'flashlight test' that will, if precious resin used for barrel, show that barrel glows ruby red...or not

 

 

This will not necessarily prove anything as there are a number of manufacturers resins that glow ruby red in intense light. The barrel and cap of the 144 and 145 both have metal sleeves to assist in minimizing breakage of the resin. It is only in the 146s and 149s that the resin walls are thick enough to not require reinforcement.

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I have never seen a Montblanc FP with "Pix" on it.

 

 

"Pix" is for mechanical pencils I believe.

 

 

 

 

Tor

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The photos give nib the appearance of less than MB quality engraving; nib appears "cheap". Please do the 'flashlight test' that will, if precious resin used for barrel, show that barrel glows ruby red...or not

Although I appreciate the seller's descriptions of pen, it has been noted that some sellers write untruths...they lie. Please do not misunderstand my opinion as meaning to impugn the integrity of Finerpointz(the seller)

 

OP's photo's are less than stellar and have glare/poor lighting

 

Never used that flashlight test on any of my pens...

 

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I have never seen a Montblanc FP with "Pix" on it.

 

There are Montblanc FPs with "Pix" on them as well. Not sure of the exact models/time period, but my modern 146 has it.

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I have never seen a Montblanc FP with "Pix" on it. "Pix" is for mechanical pencils I believe.

 

Tor

 

In the past 10-13 years PIX has been used on Montblanc FPs and other instruments as well.

 

However, I should say this. Pix was an original trademark for a push-mechanism pencil that MB bought in the early 30s. I have posted numerous times on the history of this trademark.

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Hi WhiteOut,

Your pen does not look like a fake to me. There is this perception that a Montblanc is a magic wand. It is not. It's a well crafted pen.

 

Compare your pen to this:

http://queenmargot.com/mb_chopin4.jpg

http://www.zooomr.com/z/photos/zoom/2883890/size-16/

 

When I bought my first 146, from a friend, I was so paranoid about fakes that I almost convinced myself that my future favorite pen was a counterfeit.

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thankz everyone.... but there is a crack noticable on the pen feeder like one of the member said... therefore i am sending it back.... i have copy down the serial number on this one.... thus... if i receive another one... most probably they shouldn/t have the same serial number rite?

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Some closeups of the Chopin. Looks familiar.

http://www.zooomr.com/z/photos/zoom/3943933/size-16/

http://www.zooomr.com/photos/paca/3943950/

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php?/topic/23041-mont-blanc-chopin/

http://www.dannzeman.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/MG_0102.jpg

http://www.dannzeman.com/2009/11/27/for-sale-mont-blanc-145-chopin-w-box-and-papers/

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