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There seem to be a few of these appearing on eBay but I haven't seen any reference to them on this forum. Hence this posting.

 

Have a look at this one: eBay 144 Solitaire

 

Note the following:

 

1. Silver metal cap bands.

2. Converter.

3. Pattern does seem to go right around the cap/barrel.

4. Excessive curve to top of clip.

 

However perhaps the most glaring error is in the serial number: PD1667619. The counterfeiters managed to get the font correct in the first two 6s but messed up the third one!! :ltcapd:

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For the record, here's a few photos taken from they listing - just in case eBay decides to remove the item...

 

http://i50.tinypic.com/2zizy1j.jpg

http://i46.tinypic.com/112ejy8.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/2chvn6o.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/hvp83c.jpg

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Good catch! Thanks for sharing!

 

Hopefully eBay will remove it soon!

"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."  - Selwyn Duke    

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bo Bo Olson Ancient Artifact

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For some one who researched...he don't know that 14K or 585 means gold; not plated. :headsmack:

 

Except on his pen...it means what it is "gold wash." If that.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

 

 

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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Raising this issue again

I think this latest batch offered for sale on ebay are the same type of fakes, as the serial number I can just see in the pictures 1666858 seems to come up on a lot of searches.

The seller failed to answer questions about the serial numbers as well?

The quality seems very good, albeit, I do not think it is a Solitaire design I recognise, which was the first warning sign.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Montblanc-Meisterstuck-SET-Kugelschreiber-Fuller-/191643897317?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=fER65McQ%252FfB1D44HPe3ZLpFFauU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

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Raising this issue again

I think this latest batch offered for sale on ebay are the same type of fakes, as the serial number I can just see in the pictures 1666858 seems to come up on a lot of searches.

The seller failed to answer questions about the serial numbers as well?

The quality seems very good, albeit, I do not think it is a Solitaire design I recognise, which was the first warning sign.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Montblanc-Meisterstuck-SET-Kugelschreiber-Fuller-/191643897317?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2047675.l2557&nma=true&si=fER65McQ%252FfB1D44HPe3ZLpFFauU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

The converter is also a huge give away - surprised they included a photo of it!

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They're getting better at faking the nibs. Much closer than others I've seen but still sloppy on the spacing and cut.

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The nib is signed 14K, and I think the solitaire model has a 18 K nib. Is that correct?

 

This pieces are very well made, and it is very easy sell it like authentic MB's.

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The nib is signed 14K, and I think the solitaire model has a 18 K nib. Is that correct?

 

This pieces are very well made, and it is very easy sell it like authentic MB's.

Could be either.

 

 

 

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The box is also counterfeit.

 

I will point out, at least to a certain extent, Authentic Montblanc Pens can come with the pattern not wrapping around the cap of the pen. They leave it smooth for Monogramming, at least on the cap but I am not sure about the barrel.

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The box is also counterfeit.

 

I will point out, at least to a certain extent, Authentic Montblanc Pens can come with the pattern not wrapping around the cap of the pen. They leave it smooth for Monogramming, at least on the cap but I am not sure about the barrel.

 

Seems to be inspired in the pure silver pattern, that one has the same pattern on the entire pen though, even the top of the cap. Also i think only the pinstripe pattern has a smooth section on the cap for engraving

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lunarfp Near Mint

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Here we go again - 1666858.

 

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BuUAAOSwfZ1WaflM/s-l1600.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RtoAAOSw7FRWafk7/s-l1600.jpg

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Just out of sheer curiosity, assuming you paid fake price for one of these and got it for the price of a cup of coffee, has anyone ever tried one? I guess my question is this: is it so fake that it does not even function as a pen?

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I have a fake 144/145 type and it functions perfectly well as a FP. So I see no reason why this one should not do so. If you think of it as a Chinese FP and not a Montblanc FP, then that's fine. That is how it will perform

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lunarfp Near Mint

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That's a good question. I don't know why, but people do tend to bid on these things.

Here's another one. Please use the report item link.

 

 

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/8KcAAOSwSdZWgq3k/s-l1600.jpg

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Another one.

 

www.ebay.com/itm/141859620591?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D141859620591%26_rdc%3D1

 

Please use the Report item link.

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