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Is there a difference between Nakaya and Platinum?


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#1 adriana1968

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 12:21

I appreciate this might be a dumb question but i'm interested in buying one of the Goldfish Celluloid pens that both make but they look almost (if not) identical to me. I looked at the list of current Japanese manufacturers on here and that made me think that Nakaya and Platinum are one and the same...help??!

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 12:29

Depending upon the model a few thousand dollars :ltcapd: Many people have commented that the nibs are not much different between the two brands, but Nakaya is much more known for its work with urushi and maki-e. IMO the celluloid would be just as good from Platinum, and probably cheaper.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 13:04

I appreciate this might be a dumb question but i'm interested in buying one of the Goldfish Celluloid pens that both make but they look almost (if not) identical to me. I looked at the list of current Japanese manufacturers on here and that made me think that Nakaya and Platinum are one and the same...help??!


I also will be looking to buy a goldfish/koi pen in the future and had the same question. Here is some history on the two companies.
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 14:06

Many similarities but definitely not the same company. Nakaya consists mostly of retired Platinum employees, and is lead by the son of the president of Platinum I believe.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 14:25

I believe Toshiya Nakata is president of both companies now after Toshiya's father retired.

As for the OP's original question, the celluloid models and the briar wood models are essentially the same between the Nakaya and Platinum models. The same size, shape, and the trim is very similar except the name. The Nakaya and Platinum pens share the same nib and feed design. Nakaya and Platinum probably share the same machinery to make their nibs. The only difference in the nibs is the imprint and tuning. However, the Nakaya pens are turned by Mr. Matsubara and the nibs are tuned by the other Nakaya craftsmen like Mr. Yoshida. Platinum has two celluloid finishes that Nakaya does not offer currently, the Sakura and Ocean Blue. However, Nakaya offers different nib finishes like ruthenium and different nib sizes like the flexible and elastic nibs. I have one of each and they are essentially the same pen.

After that, the lines differ. The Nakaya urushi and maki-e pens are unique and very different than the rest of the Platinum line.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 16:25

I believe Toshiya Nakata is president of both companies now after Toshiya's father retired.

As for the OP's original question, the celluloid models and the briar wood models are essentially the same between the Nakaya and Platinum models. The same size, shape, and the trim is very similar except the name. The Nakaya and Platinum pens share the same nib and feed design. Nakaya and Platinum probably share the same machinery to make their nibs. The only difference in the nibs is the imprint and tuning. However, the Nakaya pens are turned by Mr. Matsubara and the nibs are tuned by the other Nakaya craftsmen like Mr. Yoshida. Platinum has two celluloid finishes that Nakaya does not offer currently, the Sakura and Ocean Blue. However, Nakaya offers different nib finishes like ruthenium and different nib sizes like the flexible and elastic nibs. I have one of each and they are essentially the same pen.

After that, the lines differ. The Nakaya urushi and maki-e pens are unique and very different than the rest of the Platinum line.

Thank you for this reply which has been very helpful. I think i'm going to go down the Nakaya route now as I note I can get a converter painted in a similar finish which really appeals to me!






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