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Water Fastness of Namiki Ink


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#1 HeathnKara

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 13:37

I saw in a recent posting that Namiki inks were listed as water resistant but not waterproof. Has anyone done any testing to determine exactly how water resistant their inks are? I use a Vanishing Point at work, and am thinking about switching using their cartridges for the sake of convenience. I want to make sure though that I won't have a mess on my hands if the paper gets a little wet (I work in a chemical plant and there's always opportunities for papers to get wet). Will the ink smudge or smear if there are a few drops? Is it only an issue if you submerge the paper?

On a side note, anyone have any thoughts on how the flow properties of Namiki ink compare to Noodler's Black?

Thanks in advance, it always amazes me at how much knowledge the members of this community have and how willing they are to share.

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 14:11

Here's Japanese FP user's page with light-exposure test and water test of various ink (sorry, no Noodler's or PR etc). The first part (with Platinum, Pilot, Sailor and Montblanc inks) is the light-exposure test, and the second part with color inks is the water test.

http://andrew.d-pad....MN/04/0523.html

I use Pilot BB in my decimo and Capless often and it flows pretty good. I would say it will smear if you touch it with wet hand or drop a few drops of water. However I think there will be enough ink remains on the paper so that you can read it.

Hope this helps!

Edited by Taki, 04 September 2006 - 14:40.


#3 Taki

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 15:03

Remembered another page with Blueblack inks light & water test. The photo on the top is the result of "light" test and the bottom one is from the "water" test.

http://members.jcom....lter/ink19.html

#4 saintsimon

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 15:43

Thanks for the usefull links, Taki. :)

They illustrate the water resistance of Namiki Blue-Black and Sailor Black quite well, also the fact that MB BB in bottles respectively carts are completely different inks. I'm also happy to see my favourite PR Midnight Blues stays at least readable.

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Posted 04 September 2006 - 18:00

I've been using Namiki Black and have found it reasonably water resistant. It fades, but under running water for 15 seconds, is quite legible. I don't know how it would do soaked for days. I think it would do for most situations. But I've gathered that Pelikan/Cross Black may be a bit better in water resistance.

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Edited by pvdiamon, 04 September 2006 - 21:22.

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 02:45

Taki, do you know how long the ink was exposed to water in the water tests? I guess my main concern is I don't want an ink that will get damp and start smearing over everything I own and making a mess. I'm an engineer working in a plant, so I'm surrounded by "practical" people. I'm the only one there using a FP, and I don't want it to turn into some big sideshow disaster. Thanks to everyone for the help.

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 02:59

Heath, both samples were held under running water but they don't say for how long.

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Posted 05 September 2006 - 13:46

I have both bottle Namiki blue & black. I find the blue to have excellent water-resistance and the black to have pretty good resistance. I blend them to make a nice water-resistant blue-black.
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Posted 05 September 2006 - 17:49

I haven't found smearing to be the issue--it's fading if exposed to enough water.

John
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