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OK, in an effort to get a more realistic idea of what I have, I am trying to ascertain which 51 colors are more difficult to find. I have read that the nassau green and cordovan brown in the Vacs are not common.

What about the aero colors.... I have heard that cocoa is not common....

Also sizes.... are the demis really that much more valuable than full sized pens..

Canadian 51 common/uncommon ??????

For instance I have

1951 date coded Cocoa Demi... common/uncommon????

Canadian T7.. date code Cordovan Brown Vac .... common/uncommon??

 

I figure that since I have decided to steal the world supply of 51s, I should start to learn more about them.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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OK, in an effort to get a more realistic idea of what I have, I am trying to ascertain which 51 colors are more difficult to find. I have read that the nassau green and cordovan brown in the Vacs are not common.

What about the aero colors.... I have heard that cocoa is not common....

Also sizes.... are the demis really that much more valuable than full sized pens..

Canadian 51 common/uncommon ??????

For instance I have

1951 date coded Cocoa Demi... common/uncommon????

Canadian T7.. date code Cordovan Brown Vac .... common/uncommon??

 

I figure that since I have decided to steal the world supply of 51s, I should start to learn more about them.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Griz,

 

This ain't that simple, the best reference is still Ernesto's site http://www.parker51.com/gpage1.html4.html

 

But I would say that although the ones you have got are 'desireable' and maybe harder to find, they are neither uncommon nor rare. Some colours are more rare in either single or double jewel and I have found that Demis seem to be a bit less than others.

 

Also some that I can find here in the UK would be uncommon in the US whereas others are easier to find in the US than Europe. However, say ten years ago a Silver capped "51" Vac would be difficult to get in the UK, whereas now I have bought three easily all off either PT, FPN or eBay. Global market I guess. :D

 

My advice is buy 'em in the colours because you like 'em. But if you find that Cedar Blue Double Jewel with an Empire cap, Get Your Grubby Mitts Off 'Cos it's MINE :P

 

Jim

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I figure that since I have decided to steal the world supply of 51s, I should start to learn more about them....  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Well... uhmmm... If I were you I'd look around for the "51" that was made in honour of the coronation of Queen Juliana of The Netherlands in 1948. It's bright orange and extremely rare.

 

O, by the way, you will surely need all the time you usually spend ransacking eBay to find this pen! ;)

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"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey."

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I figure that since I have decided to steal the world supply of 51s, I should start to learn more about them....  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Well... uhmmm... If I were you I'd look around for the "51" that was made in honour of the coronation of Queen Juliana of The Netherlands in 1948. It's bright orange and extremely rare.

 

O, by the way, you will surely need all the time you usually spend ransacking eBay to find this pen! ;)

Was that a 'One Off' or did they make a limited run?

 

You are in the right place to find one and I am closer than Old Griz, so we can get the drop on him here :D

 

Jim

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But if you find that Cedar Blue Double Jewel with an Empire cap, Get Your Grubby Mitts Off 'Cos it's MINE :P

 

Jim

Thanks Jim.... for some reason did not go to that page on Ernesto's site... that place has fantastic info..... I might just have to spring for the 51 book at the DC Show if I make some real cash.....

 

As for that Empire Capped Double Jewel Cedar Blue 51..... are you talking about the one I got last night on eBay for $37.50 inc shipping.... price was low because it has a broad stub nib (not popular in the US)

 

If it looks as good as the pictures, I'll keep you in mind if I decide to sell it...

 

MMMMMMM.... let's see... supply (I got one).... demand (you don't got one).....

Price = supply + demand factor + grovel factor..... Yup that sounds about right.

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Husssshhhh, Jim, it's a decoy to keep OldGriz busy looking for an eanigmatic non-existent "51"... While he's searching for it: more opportunities for us mere mortals...

"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse and sell a little cheaper and the people who consider price only are this man's lawful prey."

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I can't speak about the English or MkIII 51's, but as to the Vac and Aero US models.

I have been slowly accumulating all the colors, and have only Nassau to get.

 

Vac - among the 2J Vacs, it is generally accepted that the Mustard, Nassau and Buckskin Beige colors are the hardest to find. This is not just due to production quantities, but also that these tend to discolor fairly easily. So, when we say "hardest to find," think "hardest to find with good color and matching shell/blind-cap/barrels.

 

These 3 colors were also made in 1J vacs, and are even harder to come by.

 

Among the Aero colors, I believe only Plum to be significantly harder to find than any of the others. Quite a few burgundy Aeros are mistakenly listed as Plum, but when compared side-by-side, the Plum has a very strong purple tone.

 

This only considers the plastic bodied pens in relative rarity. I would think that any 51 Presidential would be considered rarer than any of the above.

 

Best regards, greg

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OK, in an effort to get a more realistic idea of what I have, I am trying to ascertain which 51 colors are more difficult to find.  I have read that the nassau green and cordovan brown in the Vacs are not common.

What about the aero colors.... I have heard that cocoa is not common....

Also sizes.... are the demis really that much more valuable than full sized pens..

Canadian 51 common/uncommon ??????

For instance I have

1951 date coded Cocoa Demi... common/uncommon????

Canadian T7.. date code Cordovan Brown Vac .... common/uncommon??

 

I figure that since I have decided to steal the world supply of 51s, I should start to learn more about them....  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:

Hey Old Griz,

 

I am getting a little worried about you and this new addiction to Parkers. There are only so many of these around, So Please try to share with the rest of us.

:roflmho:

Take Care my friend, Parkercrazy

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