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"I'd Like to Have an Argument, Please"


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#1 Aysedasi

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 19:42

Just the 5 minutes, that is....... ;)

Actually, hopefully more than 5 minutes. ;)

I've just bought an Argument pen - apparently a '30S' off Ebay for 10 Euros. I don't know why - it was a complete whim. Just liked the look of it and at 10 Euros, well, there's not an awful lot lost if it turns out to be no good.

Does anyone know anything about these pens? The seller described it as fully working (it's a piston filler with a steel nib) from the 60s. If I remember rightly, Mr. Goldfink had a pen of this make for sale earlier this year. I think he said it was German-made.

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PS I've found the link to Mr. Goldfink's sale pen. Sadly the photos are now lost to the sands of time....

Mr. Goldfink's Argument - now there's a great name for a band.....!

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#2 bphollin

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 19:53

Mr. Goldfink's Argument - now there's a great name for a band.....!

No it isn't. Yes it is. No it isn't! Yes it is!

(sorry I haven't got anything constructive to add! it looks like a cool pen. I hope to learn more about it, too)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 19:55

I don't know anything about the pen either, but I would guess that it is German (or perhaps Swiss or Austrian) from the German text on the cap. "Fast-change nib" is an interesting idea. Enjoy your new Argument!
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 20:03

Instead of quoting the sketch in its entirety (yer welcome!), I'll post this link to Monty Python's Argument Clinic, just cos I started reading it again and giggling.

Nice-looking pen you got there, Aysedasi! I like the nib. How's it write?

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#5 Aysedasi

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 20:08

No idea yet my friend, I only 'won' it about an hour ago!

It's just a great name for a pen, isn't it? Like many others, at 52, I'm a lifelong Python fan. My mates and I were always getting told off for acting out sketches in class.... I still know some of them almost off by heart.

Anyhow, I can now definitely argue in my spare time......... ;)

Perhaps I'll review the pen as and when - it's about time I made my reviewing debut!

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 20:20

Just an idea -- sorry, no argument -- if you have the time and energy (the dough having been no problem), then you might want to remove the nib (since it says "fast nib-changer") and then compare these with the nibs shown in Richard's site on Pelikan. Maybe there is some striking resemblance?

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#7 Ernst Bitterman

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 20:23

That looks very like a Wearever point in it. Perhaps "quick change" is more idiomatically rendered as "pulling a fast one"?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 20:40

[quote name='ethernautrix' date='26 October 2009 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1256587393' post='1278792']
Instead of quoting the sketch in its entirety (yer welcome!), I'll post this link to Monty Python's Argument Clinic, just cos I started reading it again and giggling.
[quote]

Hilarious! I just love Monty Python. All of their films. Can't stop seeing them over and over again. I didn't know about that site/story.

Uneducated heap of ... now, what was that again?

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Edited by lapis, 26 October 2009 - 20:42.

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#9 Brian

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 22:57

I like the name "Argument" for a pen. I mean what could be more compelling for an attorney to have a pen called Argument. They can use it to state their case. Plus, that pen is not bad looking. Very classic and from the looks of it designed for a working life.



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Posted 26 October 2009 - 23:45

[quote name='lapis' date='26 October 2009 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1256589611' post='1278826']
[quote name='ethernautrix' date='26 October 2009 - 09:03 PM' timestamp='1256587393' post='1278792']
Instead of quoting the sketch in its entirety (yer welcome!), I'll post this link to Monty Python's Argument Clinic, just cos I started reading it again and giggling.
[quote]

Hilarious! I just love Monty Python. All of their films. Can't stop seeing them over and over again. I didn't know about that site/story.

Uneducated heap of ... now, what was that again?

Mike Heap
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What a scream! Can't help myself: video here.

I may not have been much help, but I DID bump your thread up to the top.


#11 riff raff

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 00:00

Stop that...




...it's silly.




Very silly, indeed.
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#12 ethernautrix

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 00:00

No idea yet my friend, I only 'won' it about an hour ago!


Is it there yet?


What about now?


Now? No?


Because I can't help myself:
Man: An argument isn't just contradiction.

Mr Vibrating: It can be.

Man: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.

Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.


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Posted 27 October 2009 - 00:03

P.S. My favorite MP movie is The Life of Brian.

Brian: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
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Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!
Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!
Brian: Now, f*** off!
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Arthur: How shall we f*** off, O Lord?

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 00:15

P.S. My favorite MP movie is The Life of Brian.


We traditionally watch "Life of Brian" on Easter here. :-)

My favorite is, and is likely always to be, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." There was a time not too many years ago when I could recite the entire thing from memory ...
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 00:42

We traditionally watch "Life of Brian" on Easter here. :-)

My favorite is, and is likely always to be, "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." There was a time not too many years ago when I could recite the entire thing from memory ...


Perhaps it's coincidence, but I just bought both of those movies on DVD, about a week ago. My lady hadn't seen them (or at least not since she was a tiny kidlet -- she's rather younger than I am), and was just whooping through both. Now I've got to find Jabberwocky (and be on the lookout for Time Bandits -- although I don't really consider that a Python film, some do, and regardless it's a great movie).
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 01:43

Perhaps it's coincidence, but I just bought both of those movies on DVD, about a week ago. My lady hadn't seen them (or at least not since she was a tiny kidlet -- she's rather younger than I am), and was just whooping through both. Now I've got to find Jabberwocky (and be on the lookout for Time Bandits -- although I don't really consider that a Python film, some do, and regardless it's a great movie).


Well, strictly speaking, "Jabberwocky" wasn't a Python film either; it just featured all the Ptyhons in a Terry Gilliam film. Regardless, I'll watch anything with any of the Pythons in, in any combination. "Yellowbeard" is another favorite.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 13:20

If you liked those then I'm sure you'll like Michael Palins "Ripping Yarns" too (especially Tomkinson's Schooldays). Were/are available on DVD.

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#18 escribo

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 13:26

I always try to watch Fawlty Towers (John Cleese) whenever it is on. :D

I may not have been much help, but I DID bump your thread up to the top.


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Posted 27 October 2009 - 13:54

P.S. My favorite MP movie is The Life of Brian.

I think my favourite is the one with Mr. Puke.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 14:29

One of my all-time favorite comedy scenes is John Cleese as a Roman soldier correcting the Latin grammar of some graffiti on a wall. (Life of Brian?) Cracks me up uncontrollably for some reason. Probably has something to do with three miserable years of Latin in school.
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