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#1 jar

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Posted 27 September 2009 - 23:02

Just for fun I thought I'd compare some pens by width, broken down into three somewhat reasonable categories, thin, medium and large. There are of course some pens that are even larger, like the venerable MB 149, Pelikan 1000 and the Omas Magnums and Dupont Xtra Large, but I'll save that for another day.

So here we go.

Thin Pens.


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From left to right: Parker 75; Waterman Prelude; Montblanc 144; ST Dupont Classique; ST Dupont Gatsby and a Parker 95.

Medium Pens.

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From left to right: Omas Ogiva; Pelikan 400; Waterman 100 Gentleman; a rather special Parker 51; ST Dupont Olympio Medium size; Conway Stewart 58; Sheaffer Targa and another mid sized Olympio.

Large Pens.

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From left to right: Sheaffer PFM; a Large Size Olympio; Waterman LeMan Opera; Olympio; modern Sheaffer Balance; Pelikan 800; Parker Duofold Centennial; Conway Stewart Duro; Montblanc 146 and an Omas 360.


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 00:19

Interesting pics. I like the "husky" ones.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:47

Is the 360 a "mezzo"? I would have expected a taller and wider pen for a full size 360 (but possibly I am confused by the shadow...).

Which cap has that beautiful P51 DJ?

Nice comparison.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 10:00

Wow! And I thought that the 75 came "only" in the form of chiselled silver.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 11:08

Very useful. Thanks much for posting your photos and categories. The 51 does look lovely.
May you have pens you enjoy, with plenty of paper and ink. :)

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 12:35

Really appreciate your posting these photos. It helps a lot!
 
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 13:53

Is the 360 a "mezzo"? I would have expected a taller and wider pen for a full size 360 (but possibly I am confused by the shadow...).

Which cap has that beautiful P51 DJ?

Nice comparison.


It's the full sized 360 but not the Magna. I also have a Mezzo and it would have fit in well in the mid range. Unfortunately my sister borrowed the Mezzo to photograph it about three months ago, so it may have found a new home.

The 51 has the Sterling cap and aluminum jewels and plunger.

edited to add requisite spallin arrers.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 13:56

Wow! And I thought that the 75 came "only" in the form of chiselled silver.

Mike


The 75 came in a wide variety of finishes from a mat black through a broad range of lacquer finishes to gold and silver plate to sterling and gold ones.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 14:23

Thanks for the pics. I just wish all husky pens weren't so long. I like short and fat.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 14:39

Thanks for the pics. I just wish all husky pens weren't so long. I like short and fat.


I'm short and fat! Will that do?

I had one of the Tombow Zoom fps. It was definitely a little tea pot.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 14:51

I'm short and fat! Will that do?

Sorry, I'm already madly in love with a tall and skinny. :D

I had one of the Tombow Zoom fps. It was definitely a little tea pot.

Thanks for the teapot reference. It has been MANY years since I have thought about that one.
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Posted 28 September 2009 - 14:55

Interesting pics. I like the "husky" ones.



Usually I do as well, but the ST Dupont Gatsby model really surprise me. Even though they are among the thinnest of the pens they are also among the most comfortable pens I've ever found to write with for extended periods. The Gatsby is a fairly heavy pen and the cap actually fits 'into' the body instead of over the body when capping or posting. You write holding the body of the pen. The balance is perfect and the tactile feel of the pens gives great control with both the metal bodies and the lacquer.

I can't say the same of the Classiques. They are beautiful and okay when not posted, barely long enough, but capped the edge of the cap cuts into the webbing of my hand and it is REALLY thin. Of all my pens the Classiques are the ones I always use unposted and it is not comfortable over extended periods.

I'll try to get some pictures of the Gatsby showing how the cap is made and how they fit together.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 15:14

Excellent post. Like others, I find it interesting to see pens I have alongside other pens I've only read about. Sometimes the size comparison is surprising.

In the picture of Medium Sizes, I think the third from the left (in Bordeaux laque) is a Gentleman, Waterman's flagship pen before the Le Man 100 was introduced.

Thanks for the pictures and post.


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 15:18

Excellent post. Like others, I find it interesting to see pens I have alongside other pens I've only read about. Sometimes the size comparison is surprising.

In the picture of Medium Sizes, I think the third from the left (in Bordeaux laque) is a Gentleman, Waterman's flagship pen before the Le Man 100 was introduced.

Thanks for the pictures and post.


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 16:45

More on the St Dupont Gatsby. As I mention above it is a thin pen but unlike many such pens you hold the barrel itself instead of a smaller section.

Here it is closed.

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and open

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and partially posted (notice the cap is going into the barrel.

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Now fully posted.

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Continued in next post ...

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 16:47

There is a gap between the body of the pen and the internal hidden section at each end and the cap slides into that gap.

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It is a simple and elegant solution for a slim pen that feels thicker in hand.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 20:51

The 51 has the Sterling cap and aluminum jewels and plunger.


Uh, so that makes it a first year 51? Congrats!

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Posted 29 September 2009 - 14:34

The 51 has the Sterling cap and aluminum jewels and plunger.


Uh, so that makes it a first year 51? Congrats!


It has a small dent in the cap and the body is worn to where the imprint is no longer visible, but it still writes like a dream. I found it in a junk shop in South Carolina and the guy was a tough negotiator. IIRC I ended up paying like $10.00 for it and then had to get the diaphragm replaced.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 19:42

A couple people mentioned that it would help if they could see the different pens side by side to get a better idea of the variation, so here is another picture with some of the pens from above side by side for reference.

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Again, from left to right: ST Dupont Gatsby, Medium Olympio, Large Olympio; Sheaffer Touchdown, Targa, OS Balance; Parker 75, 51, modern Duofold Centennial; Waterman Prelude, Gentleman, Leman.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 21:00

Thank you, jar. This thread is very helpfu.

Your categories are indeed reasonable. My preferences are unreasonable. What you call "medium" pens are small in my hand. The "large" ones are medium and useful. My "large" pens are the Pel M-1000, MB 149, Delta Dolce Vita O/S, etc. Those you lable "small" are toothpicks for me. - All in good humor, of course. My arthritic middle aged hands are more comfortable these days with mega pens. (Eye wink. I really miss the emoticons!)






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