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I bought a Lamy 2000 fountain pen.

 

Day one it leaked.

 

I sent it for repair and they made me pay 20 dollars.

 

Paying for selling you a defective pen? I asked the shop assistant.

 

He grinned and handed me the receipt.

 

I really admire the design of this pen but does it have to leak like the Niagara?

 

As for the history aspect of this rant. . . the LAMY 2000 for me is now HISTORY!

 

 

 

 

Sounds like the $20 was a service handling charge, it should have been under the guarantee. Lamy have honoured it down here.

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Ordered 2 Lamys tonight from Goulet Pens in Virginia.

 

An alumninum Alstar and a graphite Al Star.

 

If you order from Goulet, specify FPN for 5% discount.

 

Might give one of these to my brother next week.

 

Not sure which one.

 

Want to ink the aluminum in the blackest black ...

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I bought a Lamy 2000 fountain pen.

 

Day one it leaked.

 

I sent it for repair and they made me pay 20 dollars.

 

Paying for selling you a defective pen? I asked the shop assistant.

 

He grinned and handed me the receipt.

 

I really admire the design of this pen but does it have to leak like the Niagara?

 

As for the history aspect of this rant. . . the LAMY 2000 for me is now HISTORY!

 

 

 

 

Sounds like the $20 was a service handling charge, it should have been under the guarantee. Lamy have honoured it down here.

 

LamyUSA never charged me a thing for the three or four visits my L2K made to them. Last repair fixed it...a flaky section.

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I bought a Lamy 2000 fountain pen.

 

Day one it leaked.

 

I sent it for repair and they made me pay 20 dollars.

 

Paying for selling you a defective pen? I asked the shop assistant.

 

He grinned and handed me the receipt.

 

I really admire the design of this pen but does it have to leak like the Niagara?

 

As for the history aspect of this rant. . . the LAMY 2000 for me is now HISTORY!

 

 

 

 

Sounds like the $20 was a service handling charge, it should have been under the guarantee. Lamy have honoured it down here.

 

LamyUSA never charged me a thing for the three or four visits my L2K made to them. Last repair fixed it...a flaky section.

 

 

I am not surprised because Lamy is justifiably proud of their products. It seemed on reflection to be charged by a retailing merchant.

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DAMMIT!!!!!! Now I want a Lamy!

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DAMMIT!!!!!! Now I want a Lamy!

If you get one I do not think you will disappointed. My Lamy 2000 is always inked. I regard my 2000 set (pen and jotter) with the same affection that I give to my Parker 75 and Parker 51 sets.

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Some internet research and Ebay gambles have revealed a few more Lamy details. Apparently there have been at least four "generations" of Lamy 2000 pens, as follows:

1. First generation has an L on the disk, no Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, a "Lamy 2000 W. Germany" imprint on the cap, a straight clip with a ball bearing at the end, and a nib size imprint on the underside of the section just below the "ears" ring.

2. Second generation has an L on the disk, a Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, "W. Germany" on the underside of the clip, and a solid machined clip.

3. Third generation has a silver disk only, a Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, and "Germany 1" or "Germany 2" on the underside of the clip, and a solid machined clip.

4. Fourth generation is same as #3, only with solid stainless steel around the breather hole on the section.

Lamy 2000 Limited Edition: Solid stainless steel body, same section and nib unit as #3, polished clip, no Lamy imprint on clip.

Three Lamy 2000 clips. Background is first gen with ball bearing. Middleground is third gen with Lamy imprint. Foreground is Lamy 2000 LE with polished clip and no Lamy imprint
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Three Lamy 2000 sections. Leftmost is first gen with slightly longer black piece at the breather hole. Middle is third gen. Right is Lamy 2000 LE. The fourth gen (not pictured) has stainless steel around the breather hole, not black plastic.
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Three Lamy 2000 "butts." Leftmost is first gen with "L" on disk. Middle is Third gen. Right is Lamy 2000 LE.
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Lamy 2000 first gen with long breather hole plastic and nib size imprint.
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Lamy 2000 first gen cap imprint
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Lamy 2000 third gen clip imprint
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I've posted these photos elsewhere(http://www.fountainp...17#entry1837417), until I found this thread.

Do you have any knowledge on this Lamy 2000 model fountain pen(circa 1967)? As you can see, this pen model says "LAMY 2000" around the bottom of the pen cap. There is no "W. GERMANY" markings, which I believe was issued on later models? There is no markings on the stainless steel clip. The clip has a polished round ball on the end bottom of the pen clip that rest against the pen, unlike the contemporary model's curved tip. The bold Lamy "L" appears on the end opposite of the nib.

The story behind the pen is that it purchased in Germany by a US soldier while stationed/traveling in Germany around 1967:


I am adding this comment because I have a 2000 that does not fit into the 4 generations you describe above. I acquired this pen about a year ago when I purchased a small collection of pens at an auction online. There were 3 Lamy's in the collection - 2 Safari's and this 2000. I have recently been interested in trying to date these 3 pens and this is how I found your post.

Anyway, the 2000 I have has a clip (solid machined) which has only "Germany" engraved on the underside - there is no 1 or 2. "Germany" is engraved into the clip, and it is not contained within a rectangular depression as I have seen here in the other examples. Looking at the pen straight on, the word Lamy is engraved on the upper most right side of the clip. The pen has the silver disc on the bottom. There are no other markings on the pen. Edited by RMN
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I got a W. Germany 2000 pencil on Ebay, so they do come along. One thing, I suppose, is that people don't know they're vintage since the design hasn't really changed. The pencil came from southwest Florida, which makes sense since that is a big German tourist/retirement area. But you're right, I don't think I've seen any vintage 2000s come up on FPN since I've been posting. Other vintage Lamys, just not 2000s.

 

I just bought a Lamy 2000 from, I think, the 1970s. It has a 18K nib and I found this thread searching for information about what years it was released with the 18K nib.

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Ordered 2 Lamys tonight from Goulet Pens in Virginia.

 

An alumninum Alstar and a graphite Al Star.

 

If you order from Goulet, specify FPN for 5% discount.

 

Might give one of these to my brother next week.

 

Not sure which one.

 

Want to ink the aluminum in the blackest black ...

 

Is this 5% FPN discount still in effect at Goulet Pens? Is it on everything or just pens? Many thanks!

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Is this 5% FPN discount still in effect at Goulet Pens? Is it on everything or just pens? Many thanks!

 

They stopped giving this discount a year or so ago.

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Thanks! Pen Chalet gives a 10% discount, I think that's right, if you click on the "Radio/Podcast" link at the top of the home page and then type in "Pen Addict" on the next page. Of course, the discount is for "Pen Addict" podcast listeners so give it a listen. I quite like it. I think that the 10% is in addition to any other promotions that they are running and sometimes they do promotions only for Pen Addict listeners. I also think that you have to enter it each time you want to purchase as doing so generates a promo code to be entered at check out.

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Thanks! Pen Chalet gives a 10% discount, I think that's right, if you click on the "Radio/Podcast" link at the top of the home page and then type in "Pen Addict" on the next page. Of course, the discount is for "Pen Addict" podcast listeners so give it a listen. I quite like it. I think that the 10% is in addition to any other promotions that they are running and sometimes they do promotions only for Pen Addict listeners. I also think that you have to enter it each time you want to purchase as doing so generates a promo code to be entered at check out.

 

Thanks for heads up! May give it a shot one day.

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Some internet research and Ebay gambles have revealed a few more Lamy details. Apparently there have been at least four "generations" of Lamy 2000 pens, as follows:

 

1. First generation has an L on the disk, no Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, a "Lamy 2000 W. Germany" imprint on the cap, a straight clip with a ball bearing at the end, and a nib size imprint on the underside of the section just below the "ears" ring.

 

2. Second generation has an L on the disk, a Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, "W. Germany" on the underside of the clip, and a solid machined clip.

 

3. Third generation has a silver disk only, a Lamy imprint on the side of the clip, and "Germany 1" or "Germany 2" on the underside of the clip, and a solid machined clip.

 

4. Fourth generation is same as #3, only with solid stainless steel around the breather hole on the section.

 

Lamy 2000 Limited Edition: Solid stainless steel body, same section and nib unit as #3, polished clip, no Lamy imprint on clip.

 

Thanks for this information Brandon.

 

I bought a, supposedly, 18k medium-nibbed Lamy 2000 on eBay. I was told that it was produced in the late sixties or seventies. I bought this pen, precisely because of this, rather than a new one.

 

However, according to Brandon's information above, I have version four or it's a version three that Lamy has replaced the section on–I've read several comments on FPN where people have had this done.

 

I know that the underside of the Clip says "Germany 2" and there is no imprint on the barrel or on the cap. I could take out the nib but I don't have a loupe anyway so I doubt that I could read it if the nib was stamped 18k. Can anyone here give me further information based on this data, i.e. does anyone know at around what year they stopped imprinting on the barrel or cap? Or approximately what year they began stamping "Germany 2" on the underside of the clip?

 

If this were truly produced in the 1970s–I'm being conservative here–I would expect to see "W Germany" on it. I'm beginning to think that I've been had.

 

Thanks in advance for any assistance or information that anyone can provide.

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"I've been had" can refer to different things. For example, quite a few people who speak about pens with some expertise assert that 14K gold is a better material than 18K gold for making nibs. Certainly for making nibs that are going to be worked on after being sold.

 

Getting a 14K nib instead of an 18K nib might involve being misled on a point of fact, but from another point of view it might be good news rather than bad news. Being persuaded that 18K gold is a better material than 14K gold could also fall into the category of being had, mentally.

 

I understand the wish to get what one thinks one has paid for, and I also understand the idea "my preference, right or wrong," but many sellers do not in all honesty know much about what they are selling. In such cases you haven't been had. You and the seller have made a mistake. This can bring you disappointment from time to time, but it can also bring you, as it has brought me, a pen that costs half or less of its ordinary market value.

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"I've been had" can refer to different things. For example, quite a few people who speak about pens with some expertise assert that 14K gold is a better material than 18K gold for making nibs. Certainly for making nibs that are going to be worked on after being sold.

 

Getting a 14K nib instead of an 18K nib might involve being misled on a point of fact, but from another point of view it might be good news rather than bad news. Being persuaded that 18K gold is a better material than 14K gold could also fall into the category of being had, mentally.

 

I understand the wish to get what one thinks one has paid for, and I also understand the idea "my preference, right or wrong," but many sellers do not in all honesty know much about what they are selling. In such cases you haven't been had. You and the seller have made a mistake. This can bring you disappointment from time to time, but it can also bring you, as it has brought me, a pen that costs half or less of its ordinary market value.

 

I posted my message seeking the wisdom of knowledgeable Lamy 2000 users, which I am not. My understanding is that that is the idea behind Fountain Pen Network–friendly conversation and sharing of knowledge. At least that's what I thought.

 

I think it's clear what I was referring to. The pen was described and sold as having an 18k nib that is "fully flexible," "can write up to double broad BB with a little pressure," and also that it was produced some time between the late sixties and early seventies. I now know that the nib is marked 18k but it is not "fully flexible." From the information that Brandon has posted, as well as the product brochure in the box, I think this pen was manufactured more recently than what was stated.

 

I bought this pen specifically because of the rarity and vintage quality and several things about it don't seem to fit that, which is why I posted questions. If not for that interest, I would have purchased new from Goulet Pens.

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GeekyGirl- maybe if you posted a few pictures of the pen you purchased, it might help the more experienced members to identify your pen correctly.

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GeekyGirl- maybe if you posted a few pictures of the pen you purchased, it might help the more experienced members to identify your pen correctly.

 

Thanks, I was taking photos when you sent this. I tried taking a photo of the nib but I don't have a macro lens so no detail is visible. It says 18k and 750 on the nib. Also, I couldn't photograph this but it says "Germany 2" under the nib. There are no imprints of any type in the makrolon material or on the steel, except for the Lamy logo on the clip.

 

Also I think that some of the other pens that are being advertised in the included brochure might provide some information regarding the timeframe that this pen might have been produced.

 

The brochure lists:

 

2000 (obviously)

2000 Ballpoint-Black

2000 Ballpoint-Wood (golden honey color)

Pico

Swift

Twin Pen, Tri-Pen, 4 Pen

Pur

Scribble

Studio - Both a black one and a Palladium finished one with a gold nib

cp1 Pt

Accent - Palladium barrel fountain one with blue grip section, Palladium barrel ballpoint with black grip section

Accent - 2 Black (looks like) resin, one ballpoint with chrome rings at the section, fountain pen-section looks like shiny woodgrain

Pickup

 

–I just thought this might give a snapshot of the timeframe that it might have been produced.

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