Another WW2 surrender pen.

[publius]

I wonder if he went into a store and bought that.

 

Or if he went into someone's house a stole it.

 

What are the odds of either?

We're talking about a Field Marshall of the Wehrmacht here, not some SS goon! Even Keitel, who was hanged at Nuremburg for following & issuing orders he knew to be criminal, would not have stooped to theft (or receiving stolen goods).

 

I still wonder if anyone used the dip pen.

[rx170]

I wonder if he went into a store and bought that.

 

Or if he went into someone's house a stole it.

 

What are the odds of either?

We're talking about a Field Marshall of the Wehrmacht here, not some SS goon! Even Keitel, who was hanged at Nuremburg for following & issuing orders he knew to be criminal, would not have stooped to theft (or receiving stolen goods).

 

I still wonder if anyone used the dip pen.

 

Perhaps you would be interested into reading the Field Marshal memoirs.

 

 

P.S. On the old platform the picture size was just right after the upgrade it got larger. I had a remark in the upgrade topic. I did not attach the picture, it is linked with [/img]command.

Edited September 15, 2009 by rx170

[Gran]

RX170, thank you for the link. That will be interesting reading.

[rx170]

RX170, thank you for the link. That will be interesting reading.

 

It is in fact very interesting. I was proud to read his assessment of Yugoslav/Slovenia partizans (anti German guerrilla fighters under Tito's command), not to mention his description of the eastern front. I read Patton's, Bradley's and Zhukov memoirs some time ago and it is interesting to compare.

Enjoy.

[Russ]

Thank you for posting the memoirs. Exciting reading . . . for me.

[publius]

But I bet they don't say anything about the pen!

[Philips]

Is the fountain pen necessarily of German manufacture? Could it be a Russian fountain pen?

 

Doing a quick search on the internet it seems the Soviets required that a ceremonial surrender be signed in Soviet occupied Berlin. It appears that this photograph was taken at the Soviet headquarters in Berlin.

Edited September 16, 2009 by Philips

[Johnny Appleseed]

That might explain the dip-pen.

 

Keitel would not have used a Russian fountain pen, and chances are the Russian signatories would not have either. The USSR at that time had not developed a strong fountain pen industry. Even Stalin apparently used a Pelikan.

 

WWII, Eastern Europe

 

John

[DJJM19951998]

The German looks exactly like Schultz from Hogan's Heroes! I know nooothing! :roflmho:

[ruud2904]

I do not think that the pen that Mr Keitel used, was a Pelikan. I copied and pasted a Pelikan 100 on top of the picture (left to the Keitel pen). Seizes and shapes do not really match nicely. But, have a look at the KAWECO pen that I also pasted into the picture (on the left). The clip shows some similarities in seize and light reflection . May be the Keitel pen could have been a different KAWECO model using the same sort of clip ?

 

http://hotpepper01.jalbum.net/ruud/slides/keitel.jpg

[zubipen]

Very nice work!!!! CSI pen investigation!!

[HBlaine]

Very nice work!!!! CSI pen investigation!!

 

This photo came up somewhere else, and I think the consensus was that it was a Kaweco. (Though, IIRC, there was a strong vote for Soennecken.)

 

To be honest, though, I'm not familiar enough with either brand to say...

[georges zaslavsky]

I might think it must be a mb from the 30's-40's but I am not sure.

[RoyalBrain]

The Germans had some shiny uniforms!

[thuratse]

It could well be a Faber Castell.

[arne]

Hello!

I came to this page searching for "Soennecken 1310", because I have one here and wanted to know more about it.

Compared to my pen, the pen on the picture looks exactly as my 1310 and I support MINTs opinion.

Best regards,

Arne

[carlos.q]

I might think it must be a mb from the 30's-40's but I am not sure.

Yup! Looks to me like a Montblanc 134/136.

[peterg]

I think the pen is definitely German. It is the archetype German pen design of the 1930's with its peaked cap button. I have a Marcedes and Parix which would both double for the pen, apart from the thick gold band.

[fountainbel]

It could well be a Faber Castell.

I concur , looks a Faber Castell button filler, production launched in 1936

The cap top logo on these pens - a set of scales - represented/symbolized integrity……

Attached a picture of such a pen and a picture of the cap top logo.

Note my pen is the version with a marbled barrel, but a completely back version existed also.

Francis

 

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/P1010058.jpg

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h89/fountainbel/P1010059.jpg

[Sasha Royale]

The "public pen" was a dip pen, during that period. It was the case in post offices, banks, business offices, the commanding officer's headquarters. A fountain pen would have been a personal item.

As supreme commander of the army, He married into a wealthy family. Wilhelm Keitel would have had his own pen.

 

What were the first-tier fountain pens of the 1920's and 1930's ?