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#1 photo-art

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 01:03

I recently acquired a Parker Sonnet Ciselé fountain pen, and bought washable blue ink in cartridges (Parker Quink) for it. I have heard of "international cartridges" and wonder if they, or some other brand will fit the Parker.

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 01:24

Aurora cartridges are an exact fit. Levenger ink comes in long cartridges that fit Parker pens as well.
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Posted 28 May 2006 - 11:44

would Sheaffer cartridges work on Parker pens?
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Posted 28 May 2006 - 13:11

would Sheaffer cartridges work on Parker pens?

I don't think so.

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 13:22

would Sheaffer cartridges work on Parker pens?

Nope, not gonna happen...
Parker has a proprietory cartridge design...
The Aurora and Levenger longs are the only ones that will also fit...
Unfortunately, unless you have a Parker convertor you are stuck with the standard cart colors and where I live that means black....
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Posted 28 May 2006 - 14:13

Thanks for the replies. It doesn't appear hopefull that I can use alternate cartridges in my pen.

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 14:53

Can't you fill an empty cartridge with a syringe in any color you want?

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 15:21

Can't you fill an empty cartridge with a syringe in any color you want?

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Yes you can... just make sure you get the original cart really clean..
Your best bet, however, is to just buy a Parker Convertor... I personally like the slide convertors...
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Posted 28 May 2006 - 17:04

I used a syringe to fill empty Quink cartridges for my Parker 45 for many years, but I have lost the syringe and don't know how to easily get a replacement. The original came from my late father who was a doctor.

I do have a converter which came with the Sonnet, but I always found filling a pen via a converter messy. I like the colour availability of bottled ink, but prefer the ease of use of cartridges.

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Posted 28 May 2006 - 22:50

Furthermore, Sheaffer cartridges only fit Sheaffer pens, and the only cartridges that Sheaffer pens take are Sheaffer cartridges.

Pendemonium and The Writing Desk have good lists of cartridge compatibility.

Aurora, one end of Levenger long (not short!), and Parker Quink cartridges are interchangeable in Aurora and Parker cartridge/converter ("c/c") pens. No other cartridges fit in those pens.

Lamy cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary outside of the German-speaking world. A German-speaking company makes independent, Lamy-compatible cartridges, sold by German-speaking retailers.

Pilot/Namiki cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary.

Sailor cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary.

A. T. Cross cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary (but the ink inside is from Pelikan).

Platinum (Japanese; not the British Platignum) cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary, right?

I think everyone else's cartridge shape (and corresponding c/c socket) is called "international." There are "short international" and "long international" cartridges; some pens take only short, while other pens take either short or long.

Edited by Goodwhiskers, 28 May 2006 - 22:52.


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Posted 31 May 2006 - 04:41

I used a syringe to fill empty Quink cartridges for my Parker 45 for many years, but I have lost the syringe and don't know how to easily get a replacement. The original came from my late father who was a doctor.

I do have a converter which came with the Sonnet, but I always found filling a pen via a converter messy. I like the colour availability of bottled ink, but prefer the ease of use of cartridges.

there are so many ways you can refill a cartridge. Anything that has a pipette like function with a pointed tip can be used.

If all else fails..you can

1. Put a blob of ink on the top of the cartridge opening
2. Use a pointed object (like a toothepick) to "poke" the ink into the hole by driving it in.

*shrugs* Its not a bad last resort, but its easy to find things that will fill a cartridge without the use of a syringe.

I'm a highschool student and got a drop pipette from the Chemistry teacher which works great in filling cartridges.

Personally i prefer converters. And yes - those cheesy slide converters from Parker are reallly cute :bunny1:
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Posted 31 May 2006 - 12:01

I used a syringe to fill empty Quink cartridges for my Parker 45 for many years, but I have lost the syringe and don't know how to easily get a replacement. The original came from my late father who was a doctor.

Tryphon, among others, sell a syringe for refilling cartridges:

http://www.tryphon.it/catalogo.htm

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Posted 31 May 2006 - 12:49

I do have a converter which came with the Sonnet, but I always found filling a pen via a converter messy.

The converters that come with the Sonnet are the larger and normally more expensive piston type, but the slide fillers are much easier to use. I agree that once you get a hold of the piton filler and then twiddle the end, I normally manage to get myself covered in ink.

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Posted 01 June 2006 - 00:54

I think everyone else's cartridge shape (and corresponding c/c socket) is called "international." There are "short international" and "long international" cartridges; some pens take only short, while other pens take either short or long.

Except that the Waterman cartridges are just a bit smaller in diameter than internationals, so that Waterman carts will fit all pens that take international size (long or short, depending on length of barrel), but international carts will only fit some Waterman pens (Kultur, yes, Phileas, no; cheapie school pens, yes, Charleston no).

Just another little gotcha to keep you on your toes ;)

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 07:08

Greetings! Lamy cartridges will work in Parker cartidge-filled fountain pens. I have had no problems using them, for example, in a Parker 100.

Regarding the converters, I agree with a previous post that the cheaper, slide-converter works well. I have had problems with the piston converter. In the piston converter, the ink does not always move properly and, when a pen sits upright for a while, gravity gets the ink "stuck" up in the end away from the section. To get the ink to flow properly, it's been necessary to twist the piston, or tap the converter, until the ink drops down to flow into the feed. This may be a Parker plastic feed problem that L.E. Waterman solved years ago by cutting an air return channel into an ebonite feed.

I have experienced the piston converter problem when using my Parker 100 and my Parker Duofolds (from the early 1990s).

The slide converter has an insert similar to one found in the newer Montblanc converter for the model 144, and similar to the bead found in Japanese Platinum cartridges. With such a design, rocking the pen back and forth gets the ink flowing into the feed.

Could the Parker piston converter problem be happening because it does not have a snug fit?

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Posted 04 June 2006 - 12:16

Unfortunately... Levenger is doing away with its large size cartridges that would fit the parker pen. I was told by one of their representatives that once their stock is gone... none would be available.

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Posted 13 June 2006 - 23:39

I've solved my own problem. I found a pharmacist who was willing to sell me a cheap syringe (meant for inter-muscular injections). The other kind of needled syringes require a doctor's prescription where I live.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 00:39

Furthermore, Sheaffer cartridges only fit Sheaffer pens, and the only cartridges that Sheaffer pens take are Sheaffer cartridges.

Pendemonium and The Writing Desk have good lists of cartridge compatibility.

Aurora, one end of Levenger long (not short!), and Parker Quink cartridges are interchangeable in Aurora and Parker cartridge/converter ("c/c") pens. No other cartridges fit in those pens.

Lamy cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary outside of the German-speaking world. A German-speaking company makes independent, Lamy-compatible cartridges, sold by German-speaking retailers.

Pilot/Namiki cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary.

Sailor cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary.

A. T. Cross cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary (but the ink inside is from Pelikan).

Platinum (Japanese; not the British Platignum) cartridges and c/c pens are uniquely proprietary, right?

I think everyone else's cartridge shape (and corresponding c/c socket) is called "international." There are "short international" and "long international" cartridges; some pens take only short, while other pens take either short or long.

Hi,

Cross and Lamy cartridges do fit Parker quite nicely. Sheaffer pens also take international shorts.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 16:27

Cross and Lamy cartridges do fit Parker quite nicely. Sheaffer pens also take international shorts.

Oh! Thanks! That's good to know.

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Posted 14 June 2006 - 16:40

If Sheaffers can take International Shorts...wouldnt that mean pens that take International shorts can take Sheaffer refills?

Perhaps not ?
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