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Pan jr. - Any information?


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#1 thomaswi

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 14:13

Just received a Pan jr. fountain pen.

Searched the forum, but can´t find any information on this. Anyone?

Thanks.
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#2 stevlight

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 15:45

Never heard of it--show us a picture. it may help.
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#3 thomaswi

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 17:44

Pictures added.

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 17:46

hmm... hmm1.gif ... german piston filler... around 1960... steel nib...

Back in that time there were countless small "no-name" FP-makers in Germany, and allmost all the pens looked the same...

Edited by sk2yshine, 07 July 2009 - 17:51.


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Posted 07 July 2009 - 17:58

Maybe it's from the Peter Pan company, aka Salz? I'm not sure...

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 18:31

Is this the same "Pan" as those piston-fill ballpoints?
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Posted 07 July 2009 - 18:58

QUOTE (publius @ Jul 7 2009, 11:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this the same "Pan" as those piston-fill ballpoints?


I was thinking the same.
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#8 thomaswi

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Posted 07 July 2009 - 20:38

Managed to find some information on the web. Apparently there was a Norwegian fountain pen factory named Pan once. I live in Norway and didn´t know about that.
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Posted 07 July 2009 - 21:28

Just noticed it says "PP" on the clip. In that case, I think it is a Peter Pan pen, made by Salz. My pen book says they're collectable, but there was an FPN post somewhere that said pens from this company usually go for somewhere between $5-35. That might be an outdated figure, though.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 17:08

QUOTE (Tsujigiri @ Jul 7 2009, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just noticed it says "PP" on the clip. In that case, I think it is a Peter Pan pen, made by Salz. My pen book says they're collectable, but there was an FPN post somewhere that said pens from this company usually go for somewhere between $5-35. That might be an outdated figure, though.


Actually the clip says "PR" but hard to tell on the picture. smile.gif
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Posted 09 February 2011 - 20:32

The logo on the box looks exactly like the one on the two Norwegian Pan FPs I bought this morning in an antique shop in Bergen ...

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 16:59

This is what one of the aforementioned Pans I bought in Bergen looks like: the Pan 1875. It is a cartidge FP, with a 1980s' look about it, and it sports a logo that looks much like the one on the box on your picture. Apparently Pan ("Den norske fyllepennfabrikken") was active until not so very long ago. I'll try to post the photos of the other one tomorrow.

On this site you find a 1946 photo of a Pan showroom:

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#13 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 22:31

From the size of the top of the cap, I'd be more inclined to put it late '40's - early '50s. I have some no names that look similar.

120 German pen manufactures in German in the '50s. I'm sure many bought their parts or un-machined parts from major companies, and cut the threads and mounted the 'standard' trim.

Many of the pens are 'clones' of major brands. Germany then was the China of piston fillers. German workers were then 'Cheap', back when the Dollar was Almighty and the DM was 4.20-4 to 1.

Back when Benz's and BMW's was cheap small vastly underpowered foreign 'junk'.

What does the nib say exactly...I can't quite read it.

Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 10 February 2011 - 22:33.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

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Posted 11 February 2011 - 15:54

This is the second of the Pan FPs I bought recently, the Pan 53. It is apparently an older model than the Pan 1875. It has a nib marked "GARANTERT", a logo with "PPI", and "1ST KVAL". It is a button filler. The pen doesn't look like a high-quality job: the gold plating (if it is gold) is incredibly thin and mostly worn off. In turning the cap the hole became slighly excentric, so that the plastic is thinner on one side, and a small part of the cap lip broke off. I haven't been able to really write with this pen (the sack is petrified ...), but I dipped it and the nib seems ok, with a little bit of flex.

There are images of yet another Pan (Pan 27) out there on the Web at this
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Posted 22 September 2013 - 22:57

Den norske fyllepennfabrikk was founded in 1950 by Arne Karlsrud. They produced fountain pens for the Norwegian market under the name Pan. In the early seventies when I first went to school, every boy and girl would eventualy get a Pan pen. The Pan Senior, the upper pen in the Picture below, belonged to my dad, and I remember he took realy good care of it.

 

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The factory was in Vellumstad, Ski, Norway.



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Posted 24 September 2013 - 12:40

Nice to see confirmation that they're Norwegian. I've a Pan 45 (with mangled nib, alas) and I was a bit sceptical when the seller told me it was made in Norway. Apart from the damaged nib, I can't get standard converters to fit - they just fall off. 


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 16:56

A few more ...

 

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#18 Kaweco

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 20:45

#6 looks like a PAN from Germany



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:21

Funny you should say that, this pen is the only one that has a narrel imprint that says "Pan Norsk" - "Pan Norwegian".

And - the nib is marked "Garantert 1ste kval", warranted 1. quality.

I have heard that these pens were also present in the Dutch market.



#20 Kaweco

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 20:39

Hello Stavanger

I thought the clip looks similar to most of my PAN fountainpens

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