Jump to content

How to remove a 51 aerometric breather tube


Ron Z

Recommended Posts

I'll post this once, and may pin it for future reference.

 

There's been a lot of discussion over time about the aerometric breather tubes, and how to remove them. Most of them are wrong. The method that I'll give below works nearly every time. There are always exceptions of course.

 

First, you are not going to try to drill out the remains of the breather tube. If you try to drill it out, chances are that you will end up with an oversize hole, and the replacement breathe tube will not stay in the feed. The reason is that to get all of the breather tube out, you have to a] drill exactly on center and b] have to be slightly over size.

 

You'll need a pin vise and a drill that is slightly larger than the ID of the tube, but smaller than the OD. I'm not specifying the size because it's not critical. It just happens that the one that I use from a bunch of Harbor Freight mini drills is about 0.037" or 0.95 mm.

 

Using the pin vise to hold the drill, drill by hand into the end of the breather tube. Don't try to drill in all of the way. As a matter of fact, DON'T go all of the way through.

 

Then heat the end of the feed over your heat gun. When warmed, twist and pull out on the drill and breather tube at the same time. The bit of tube should be stuck to the drill, and will come out of the feed. Heat again to allow the hard rubber to return to shape, allow to cool, and then insert the new breather tube. Use a bit of a twist as you push the new one in place.

Edited by Ron Z

spacer.png
Visit Main Street Pens
A full service pen shop providing professional, thoughtful vintage pen repair...

Please use email, not a PM for repair and pen purchase inquiries.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 24
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • Ron Z

    5

  • Gerry

    3

  • Vintagepens

    2

  • mitto

    2

Nice. :thumbup:

Does not always write loving messages.

Does not always foot up columns correctly.

Does not always sign big checks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Ron, from your post I would assume a #63 drill is what you use. Hobby shops often sell miniature sets covering #60-80 for surprisingly little.

 

David, your suggestion sounds great too!. I often use a tap to extract Estie inner caps (not at the pro inner cap remover stage yet). Not sure what size tap would be appropriate - but 4-40 is about the smallest I have in my set.

 

From the size Ron suggests I think a 4-40 is too big, perhaps a 2-56 would be better. 4-40 is pretty common, 2-56 would probably be special order. Both require tap drills much larger than the #63 Ron uses, so they may be too large as far as taps go. It would be nice to know the OD of the tube to try and guess - or you could hint... ;)

 

Regards,

 

Gerry

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I generally accomplish this task by chucking the feed up in the lathe and using a Nº 57 (0.043") drill in the tailstock chuck. Go slow, and pretty soon the drill binds on what's left of the breather tube. Then I can just back the drill out, and with it the fragment of breather tube.

 

For them that's interested, I have a drill size reference on my site. I'm seeking suggestions for things to color blue. (You'll understand this request when you see the chart.)

sig.jpg.2d63a57b2eed52a0310c0428310c3731.jpg

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Very, very nice Richard.

 

I wonder if you'd think of adding a table of common taps and dies with the same Blue areas... Like the 5/16" 36 tap for the Parker Vac filler blind cap / filler unit threads? Useful if one wants to make a vac wrench if one can't afford the much better vac wrenches available from various suppliers of FP tools - like Tryphon or Wood Bin just to name a couple? Or use the more expensive die to chase the threads if they were a bit damaged by someone trying to remove the unit with pliers (grimace).

 

For my contribution - a 5/16 x 16 NC works fairly well to remove an Estie inner cap - if you don't have an inner cap remover (but does mark the inner cap).

 

Regards, and thanks for all you do.

 

Gerry

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 months later...
  • 1 month later...

This may be a silly question, but what does this breather tube do? And why does it need to be replace or taken out? I suppose take it out to replace it. I suppose my question is towards to understand the signs of needing to replace the breather tube.

 

Please enlighten us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 11/19/2009 at 8:10 PM, returnofpenguy said:

This may be a silly question, but what does this breather tube do? And why does it need to be replace or taken out? I suppose take it out to replace it. I suppose my question is towards to understand the signs of needing to replace the breather tube.

 

Please enlighten us.

You can find a discussion of the features and function of the breather tube in this article I wrote.

 

--Daniel

 

Moderator edit 4/2022

 As of this date, the article above is no longer available.  Go to the end of the thread for a short post on breather tubes.

"The greatest mental derangement is to believe things because we want them to be true, not because we observe that they are in effect." --Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

Daniel Kirchheimer
Specialty Pen Restoration
Authorized Sheaffer/Parker/Waterman Vintage Repair Center
Purveyor of the iCroScope digital loupe

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

Your article is really great and I truly enjoyed reading it.

Thank you very much! it's nice to know that someone actually made it all the way through it -- I know it is a topic with very narrow appeal.

 

--Daniel

"The greatest mental derangement is to believe things because we want them to be true, not because we observe that they are in effect." --Jacques-Bénigne Bossuet

Daniel Kirchheimer
Specialty Pen Restoration
Authorized Sheaffer/Parker/Waterman Vintage Repair Center
Purveyor of the iCroScope digital loupe

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Daniel,

 

Thanks for an excellent article!

 

As a side note, when I was in India, Parker 51s were manufactured by Wilson, under license from Parker. They were called Wilson 81, and were the finest pens in India for a long time. The license agreement expired some time in the mid 1980s and they stopped making these excellent pens. I have never used a real Parker 51, but the imitation ones available from China, are the closest that I have come to using that legendary pen.

 

Thanks again for the explanation and history of the Parker 51's development.

 

Best regards,

 

-thepusher

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 5 months later...
  • 2 years later...
  • 3 years later...

I'm not sure if I get it right. Is this the method I have to use to remove the piece of broken breather tube from the feed, like this one?

 

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y262/claudewick/2015-10-14%2008.03.57.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 1 year later...

I use a little screw used in wrist watches that I got from a watch repairer of the exact size of the tube and screw it carefully into the tube end stuck in the feed and then use a heat gun. After the feed is warm enough I pull the screw and the stuck piece of tube comes out on the first or second try. I have used this method even today while restoring a recently acquired forest green 51.

Khan M. Ilyas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 8 months later...

Or you could use the sac itself as a grippy and carefully pull out the corrodes pieces, like I did. Then, you wash everything to get the gunk out and put in a new one. I also found that for less corroded tubes, you can use a toothpick.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Or you could use the sac itself as a grippy and carefully pull out the corrodes pieces, like I did. Then, you wash everything to get the gunk out and put in a new one. I also found that for less corroded tubes, you can use a toothpick.

 

Not if they're snapped of flush with the end of the feed.

spacer.png
Visit Main Street Pens
A full service pen shop providing professional, thoughtful vintage pen repair...

Please use email, not a PM for repair and pen purchase inquiries.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33583
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26772
    5. jar
      jar
      26105
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...