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Pilot 78G (F) and Uranus (F)/Norman Haase, His Nibs/Facilitates Shorthand Penmanship

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#1 jomcsr


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 12:27

After years of using other pens, both expensive and cheap, I came across The Fountain Pen Network and read a few reviews. I came across information on the Pilot 78G fountain pen, HisNibs.com, and Norman Haase.

Always searching for the ultimate in fine line nibs, I never could find just the right one. I contacted Norman Haase at HisNibs.com and ordered the Pilot 78G in a fine nib. Norman was very attentive to my inquiries and needs and quickly responded to all E-mail within 30 minutes or less. I ordered a Pilot 78G fine nib and LOVE IT! In fact, I love it so much that I ordered a second. Never have my shorthand notes been so clear. This pen is a true joy. In shorthand, angles, curves, circles, as well as proportions are so crucial. The Pilot 78G facilitates these shorthand necessities with no problem. The ink flow is just right, whether writing at break-neck speeds, or with firm or light pressure, et cetera. Also, where a lot of other fountain pens fail during the execution of the long upward strokes, the Pilot 78G does not. Most pens tend to lighten up during this stroke or skip. The firmness of the nib is just right, also.

I am only sorry I did not know about this site before wasting time and money on other pens and with other companies before finding this very light-weight, cheap wonder. It is only too bad that Pilot has discontinued this model of pen.

I have also purchased a fine nib Uranus from Norman and find that it too is a very nice pen, which has a very fine nib. All the other fine and extra fine nibs I own seem to be mediums. I would not hesitate to recommend the 78G (while reserves are still available) and Norman Haase at HisNibs.com, a first-class company. Norman's expertise, guidance, and excellent service are next to none, complete with the little old-world notes, closed with sealing wax and stamp, a very personal touch, which is RARE in this day and age!

James O. Moyer, III, CSR
Certified Shorthand Reporter
Philadelphia, PA

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#2 John Cullen

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 13:03

Glad you like your pen. I think you did the right thing getting an extra one. I think there are many cases where people found a pen that really fit their style and then a few years down the road looked for a replacement or extra and could not find one.

The good news for you is that the nib on this pen is apparently also used on a few other pens, like the Pilot Knight and the Pilot Prera (sp??). Check out the threads on this topic and you might find another delight, though not quite as cheap as the 78g.

Good luck, jc

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 18:05

I recently acquired a couple of the 78Gs (an M and F). The M puts down a beautiful line, finer than any of the fines I own to date by my eye. For days I couldn't put it down scribbling inane comments on my desk pad. It is a fantastic writer and a great value. I haven't inked the F yet. I'm afraid I might soil myself in my excitement if it is a satisfying as its cousin.

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 18:29

I also acquired a 78G recently- Medium point.
I am very happy with the nib quality, and smoothness
at this price point!

This pen will use pilot cartridges!

I also recommend Hisnibs.com


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 19:18

I got a 78G from Norman last year and it's done me proud.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 20:48

Hi I recently bought a Pilot Prera and I love the nib because it feels so similar to the Namiki Vanishing Point. Is the fine nib on the 78G similar in feel and smoothness and size to the Prera or Vanishing point?
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Posted 16 September 2010 - 21:53

I emailed Pilot asking if the 78G was discontinued, their answer was to the contrary. You can get them CHEAP on eBay, with free shipping to boot!! I have yet to get one myself, but I plan on it...
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Posted 19 September 2010 - 13:20

Glad you found the perfect pen and all, but...

Tell me about shorthand reporting. 30 years ago when I started the practice of law there were several pen writers around. Before I paid attention to FPs several of them retired, so I only remember that one used an Esterbrook, and one a Parker 51. I recall the Esterbrook being filled during breaks in testimony. The owner of the 51 would set an open bottle of ink on the desk/table and dip the nib during breaks so he never had to actually refill.

As I recall they all used the shorthand pads, spiral bound at the top, lined pages, and a red line down the middle(?).

Jim, would you share your experience as a pen reporter? Where did you train, what kind of pens did you use then, favorite inks? Can a pen writer keep pace with a steno machine? Are there many of you in Philadelphia?


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Posted 23 September 2010 - 18:15

I have a NOS Gregg nib here, if you ever acquire an Esterbrook to fit it.
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Posted 22 January 2011 - 18:17

I emailed Pilot asking if the 78G was discontinued, their answer was to the contrary. You can get them CHEAP on eBay, with free shipping to boot!! I have yet to get one myself, but I plan on it...

The 78G is still available at a lot of places at varying prices.
I bought mine from Hong Kong for under $7.45 each.

Whether it's discontined or not - I looked at all of Asian Pilot sites and there is no trace of it at all on any of them.
Very odd since it's an Asian market only pen.

Edited by Black Rose, 22 January 2011 - 18:18.

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Posted 22 January 2011 - 18:26

Umm, this thread has been dead for months, so they probably have found an answer.
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