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#1 gregamckinney

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 13:02

I haven't heard of a Relif 7 before, but from the bidding, it seems like someone must have.
Anyone know what this is? http://cgi.ebay.com/...em=370198916675

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 13:23

Brian Anderson (www.esterbrook.net) displays and discusses Esterbrook Relief Pens on his web site, but he doesn't show a Relief 7.
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Posted 17 May 2009 - 14:09

QUOTE (RayMan @ May 17 2009, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Brian Anderson (www.esterbrook.net) displays and discusses Esterbrook Relief Pens on his web site, but he doesn't show a Relief 7.


Exactly. Brian's site, and the discussion here (Brian, Antonios, Todd, etc.) is where I learned the bit I know about the Relief series.
This one has the higher-end cap band config, and the auction seems to describe a piston or plunger filler. Makes me wonder if this is a legit pen, and maybe the high-end of the Relif family.

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 17:28

I found another Relief No 7 on Battersea's website http://penhome.co.uk...oto_Archive.htm The Ref # is 2245, close to the bottom of the page.
Ref 2245 - Esterbrook Relief No7, Piston filler, English - Rare Esterbrook piston filler in cracked ice design with gft - 1935 - Condition B/1m

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#5 Brian Anderson

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 19:09

Shhhhh!!!!!! Don't tell too many people!!!

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 21:45

If I were into Blue Marble Relief pens I'd bid...Oh wait, I just checked and it is already over what I would bid today--I've a few other irons in the ebay fire.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 21:43

Closed at a bit over $500, more than I wanted to spend, but well within the range I thought it might go for.
Congrats to whoever landed this rare item.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 21:59

Well, I've only been back into FP's and Esties for a year now, but that's by far the priciest Estie I'VE seen so far. Almost makes Adam's primo $275 Visumaster seem inexpensive.

WAY TOO solidly into C-worder territory for this kid.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 22:51

QUOTE (OcalaFlGuy @ May 18 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I've only been back into FP's and Esties for a year now, but that's by far the priciest Estie I'VE seen so far. Almost makes Adam's primo $275 Visumaster seem inexpensive.

WAY TOO solidly into C-worder territory for this kid.

Bruce in Ocala, FL


Well, I seem to recall a RRHR 1-R eyedropper that that went for about $800 (IIRC)...
The UK Reliefs are a class of their own...

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 04:03

QUOTE (antoniosz @ May 18 2009, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (OcalaFlGuy @ May 18 2009, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I've only been back into FP's and Esties for a year now, but that's by far the priciest Estie I'VE seen so far. Almost makes Adam's primo $275 Visumaster seem inexpensive.

WAY TOO solidly into C-worder territory for this kid.

Bruce in Ocala, FL


Well, I seem to recall a RRHR 1-R eyedropper that that went for about $800 (IIRC)...
The UK Reliefs are a class of their own...


Who was that?

I know of another Relief that went for well over $1k. Rare as Hen's Teeth though.

One thing I hate about this ebay system is now we have to email everyone we know to see who may have one the dang thing.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 05:11

So, from what I can glean from the ebay listing we have a No.3 nib with a "plunger" fill mechanism...
Anyone have any dimensions and further details of the fill mechanism?

PS I'm with Antonios on the Reliefs. Love 'em. Especially the CBHR and RRHR ones.

Edited by jimg, 19 May 2009 - 05:14.


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Posted 20 May 2009 - 01:04

QUOTE (jimg @ May 19 2009, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, from what I can glean from the ebay listing we have a No.3 nib with a "plunger" fill mechanism...
Anyone have any dimensions and further details of the fill mechanism?

PS I'm with Antonios on the Reliefs. Love 'em. Especially the CBHR and RRHR ones.


It is clearly a piston filler with an ink window. Possibly the nib is wrong.
A pen to covet for the Relief aficionado.

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Posted 20 May 2009 - 07:35

Just passing through and noticed this topic. I think you'll find the pen is the Relief equivalent of the Conway Stewart Ink Visible 800 dating to the late 1930s.

The filling system of the Ink Vis 700/800 (and how to repair it) is described in some detail in Laurence Oldfield & Jim Marshall's pen repair manual. Not a repair for the faint-hearted, though!

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:27

QUOTE (antoniosz @ May 20 2009, 11:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jimg @ May 19 2009, 01:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, from what I can glean from the ebay listing we have a No.3 nib with a "plunger" fill mechanism...
Anyone have any dimensions and further details of the fill mechanism?

PS I'm with Antonios on the Reliefs. Love 'em. Especially the CBHR and RRHR ones.


It is clearly a piston filler with an ink window. Possibly the nib is wrong.
A pen to covet for the Relief aficionado.


Oh Lord, am I really doomed to spend my days wandering the earth looking for different variants of these fabulous pens?

A piston filler Relief!

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:31

am curious as well, because all i have is the plain lever version:



QUOTE (jimg @ May 21 2009, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh Lord, am I really doomed to spend my days wandering the earth looking for different variants of these fabulous pens?

A piston filler Relief!


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 01:37

Yes Jim smile.gif We have
1-R, 1-L, and 1 pencil, 2-R, 2-L, 2-S, 22-L, 3-L, 3-S, 4-L, 4-S, 5-L, 6-L, and now 7 (-P?). Oh and 12.
That's all we know. R=eyedropper, L=lever, S=stud (button filler). And yes, there is a 6.

Penmanilla - nice 1-L smile.gif

Edited by antoniosz, 21 May 2009 - 01:40.


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Posted 21 May 2009 - 03:50

Technically, there is no 1-L, it's just a 1. Isn't there also a 6-M, for manifold? And for those counting, 22's come in either a ringtop version, clip version, or I think there's even a version with a clip AND a ringtop (Greg, don't you have one of these?). There is also a pencil for the 2 series.

I'm sure there are even more but my brain is fried. Would love to get my hands on a 4-S someday. Those 4's are AWESOME!! smile.gif

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 04:18

Yes. I stand corrected. Just 1.
Also yes there is a pencil for the 2 Series - you know you stuff Brian smile.gif
On the 6 - it is 6-L but it is called Manifold Relief. BTW it looks like it is same size with 2
The 4s are huge though.. I would love to get my hands on any 4 smile.gif

QUOTE (Brian Anderson @ May 20 2009, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Technically, there is no 1-L, it's just a 1. Isn't there also a 6-M, for manifold? And for those counting, 22's come in either a ringtop version, clip version, or I think there's even a version with a clip AND a ringtop (Greg, don't you have one of these?). There is also a pencil for the 2 series.

I'm sure there are even more but my brain is fried. Would love to get my hands on a 4-S someday. Those 4's are AWESOME!! smile.gif

Brian



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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:01

QUOTE (antoniosz @ May 20 2009, 11:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes. I stand corrected. Just 1.
Also yes there is a pencil for the 2 Series - you know you stuff Brian smile.gif
On the 6 - it is 6-L but it is called Manifold Relief. BTW it looks like it is same size with 2
The 4s are huge though.. I would love to get my hands on any 4 smile.gif


Aaahh, yes, I figured you'd straighten me out on the 6 Antonios. Come to DC and you can see my 4-L. smile.gif Do you have a model 1 pencil? Picture?

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Posted 21 May 2009 - 08:03

Just saw your note on DC/Columbus. I'll bring it to Chicago next year. You'd better come! wink.gif
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