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Mont Blanc 220/221 Identification


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I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140310384109

 

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

 

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

 

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.

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She turned me into a newt.......

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Not that I can put up yet - I'll see what I can do..... (that translates to 'Do I dare to put up some more of my dreadful handwriting.....?' ;)).

 

 

 

PS Any thoughts on the price I paid for this? It seemed extremely reasonable to me - even more so now I have the pen.

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She turned me into a newt.......

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Thanks for the scan!

I'm impressed by the variation in line thickness.

I'm imagining how nice that would look and feel on my cotton stationery. :puddle:

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I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140310384109

 

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

 

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

 

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.

 

This should be a 221, made between 1971-1979. I've a 220, which is a matt black finished, doing well with a Pelikan convertor.

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I bought this pen on Ebay a few days ago -

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...em=140310384109

 

As you'll see, the seller couldn't say if it was a 220 or a 221. Personally, I wouldn't have a clue. I was attracted by the likely finishing price and the OB nib. The pen arrived today and is very nice. The nib is seriously sweet.

 

It had no converter, so I have a cartridge in at the moment. Do I need a Mont Blanc converter or will any other proprietary converters work in it?

 

Any ideas how I identify the pen definitively? I can't see any useful identifying features on the pen.

 

This should be a 221, made between 1971-1979. I've a 220, which is a matt black finished, doing well with a Pelikan convertor.

 

Well :hmm1: , it has flat ends, it has two cap rings and it is glossy -> so if this pen was made between 1970 and 1979 it is a Montblanc 221 and not a 220. So far I agree.

But if this pen was made after 1979 until 1987, and the engraving on the nib looks definately like it, then the Model is called Montblanc "Classic" (not Classique!) B) . The "Classic" had exactly the same shape and size of the former 221.

 

Regards,

Axel

 

 

 

Axel

Montblanc collector since 1968. Former owner of the Montblanc Boutique Bremen, retired 2007 and sold it.
Collecting Montblanc safeties, eyedroppers, lever fillers, button fillers, compressors - all from 1908 - 1929,
Montblanc ephemera and paraphernalia from 1908 to 1929,
Montblanc Meisterstück from 1924 up to the 50s,
Montblanc special and limited editions from 1991 to 2006
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Axel,

 

Thank you for sharing this information. It is much appreciated.

 

Fred

 

 

Well :hmm1: , it has flat ends, it has two cap rings and it is glossy -> so if this pen was made between 1970 and 1979 it is a Montblanc 221 and not a 220. So far I agree.

But if this pen was made after 1979 until 1987, and the engraving on the nib looks definately like it, then the Model is called Montblanc "Classic" (not Classique!) B) . The "Classic" had exactly the same shape and size of the former 221.

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Thanks everyone, Axel in particular. I wouldn't have a clue when the pen was made, but I have to say that I am absolutely bowled over by the nib. It is, without doubt, the nicest nib I have ever written with. Now if only I could find this type of nib in a bigger pen - but at a reasonable price, I could well finally end my FP addiction....... Hmmm, not sure if that's good or bad - although I know what SWMBO would say..... ;)

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Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.

I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. :happyberet:

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Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.

I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. :happyberet:

 

 

Sounds good, but there would be no point my even going into an MB boutique, I couldn't justify that kind of expense on a pen.

 

http://www.aysedasi.co.uk

 

 

 

 

She turned me into a newt.......

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Modern MB Broads and wider will give you the same effect.

I suggest trying the 146 and 149 at a boutique. :happyberet:

 

 

Sounds good, but there would be no point my even going into an MB boutique, I couldn't justify that kind of expense on a pen.

In that case you could try it there to compare the different offerings, and if one or two are winners, you could look for them elsewhere.

 

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Yep, I could for sure. Trouble is, here in the UK, as far as I know, there are no MB boutiques south of London. Some of these companies think that life begins and ends in the Capital........ ;)

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