One of my favorite daily users. The Noodlers ink is creeping via the nib, and where the nib inserts into the pen. Just got it back from John Mottishaw, and still a problem. I noticed after a search here that I am not alone. Looking for a good replacement Blue and Black ink to clear this up. Any input is appreciated. A beautiful and smooth writer, but tired of ink on my hands.
Thanks,
Andrew

I have the same problem with Noodler's ink in that pen - I've since switched to OMAS Brown and Sheaffer Skrip Blue-Black... works great.

Several have suggested putting a touch of silicone grease on the threads before screwing the nib back in.

Stephen

Can you explain that a little more. I have several Noodler inks that creep to the top of the nib via the slit but go no farther. It soulds like you ink is creeping past the section. In that case I would suspect maybe a problem with the pen or ink in the cap rather than the Noodlers ink.

Kurt H

Thanks for all of the quick responses. I am new to this forum, and really impressed with it.
The people seem knowledgable and courteous. I am unsure as to whether the nib on this pen screws on/off, so I have not tried due to concerns about breaking it. I crippled an emperor by trying too much. It seems to creep mostly from the nib slits, and very slightly from where the section is. I assume Mottishaw checked the section integrity. i think my next step is to try some other inks. I do like the noodler products...
regards,
Andrew

Private Reserve Velvet Black is my favorite Black. Aurora Black is a close second. I haven't had creep problems with either of them in several pens.

Andy

I had similar problem. Than I figured out that I haven't drained pen after being washed with water. Ink has either leaked through nib (PR inks), or skipped badly (Diamine, Herbin, Omas).

Now whenever I wash pen after changing ink, I carefully drain it, and haven't problems.

Don't unscrew the paragon nib. I know some people say you can do this. You may well unscrew the collar with the nib and feed in it and thus remove the unit, but by doing so you will break the seal and so when you screw the collar and nib unit back in there is a good chance it will not seal perfectly.

Someone who collects Omas pens told me this about eight years ago. Perhaps there is now a change in the Paragon?? If I am wrong about this, I have no problem being corrected.

But until you know for sure, don't unscrew the nib. Mottishaw could tell you, obviously. jc

What Noodler's are you using? I've experienced this, too, in my Paragon, but only with non-black eternal inks (Aquamarine, Swishmix Glacier Blue). I'm pretty sure it didn't happen with Black, and I've never had a problem with regular Noodler's inks creeping (although some people here have).

The easiest solution is use only Omas ink in Omas pens. I know that many disagree. While I like Noodlers for other pens, Omas warranty and the nature of their pens are such, I use only Omas inks in my 8 babies.

To each his (or her) own, but surely most FP inks work just fine in Omas pens.

Are you suggesting that the Omas warranty is invalidated by the use of non-Omas inks? I've never heard that, and I'd be very surprised if it were true.

Feel free to ask them or email them, but I think you'll find they reserve the right to invalidate the warranty for inks used that are non-Omas. It's been a topic of great discussion. That said, John Mottishaw I believe uses Sheaffer, but Sheaffer is an exceptionally mild ink apparently. When you view the verbage on the instructions it only says for perfect functioning use only Omas ink. It doesn't meniton ink in the warranty, but you'd have to check with them. Some sellers clearly have refused to warrant certain inks, I can't speak for them. I know in using Omas inks with Omas pens I haven't had any staining or trouble. That would probably be the same with Parker Quink or Sheaffer inks. But in pens that are expensive as Omas, I wouldn't use some of the more saturated inks, that's just me, I'd rather pay a little more for my ink and limit my color choices than to take chances.

I just re-read the warranty on my Galileo and [as yet unused] Cinema fountain pens. Nothing about what kind of ink.
Omas inks are nothing special, unless you have Roma 2000 Blue or Vespucci Red.
I filled the Galileo with PR Blue Suede and have no problem.

It was a subject of several discussions on a board elsewhere. It has been mentioned several times. I did email Omas and unfortunately they remain mute on the subject. I'm not surprised as they probably don't want to discuss something they reserve the right to reject. That said, obviously John Mottishaw uses Sheaffer. My only suggestion would be that as I realize this is a subject of great controversy, if anyone has doubts email someone like Mottishaw or Richard Binder prior to using an ink. For my part, I like Omas inks and will error on the side of caution. I love Parker Penman, but won't use it in my 800.00 Pens. Ditto on Private reserve which I've never had trouble with in other pens. Someone like Richard Binder who works on pens, has better experience than I do.

I live in a very humid area. To me humidity and the type of paper used have a great deal to do with ink performance too. Anyway, Omas hasn't been willing to answer my specific question, I'll probably try the omas society and see if they answer that avenue.

Andrew, I don't have Noodler's Blue-Black to guage how much it creeps. I do have Legal Lapis that does have some creep in it (but I don't mind).

You may want to try the Swishmix/Noodler's Tahitian Pearl Blue-Black from Swisher. I think the additives they put in it to make it fast dry might lesson the ink creepiness. It seems to work great in my Triumph nibs and Esterbrook nibs well with minimal creep.

I did receive a reply from Omas this am. There answer was the reason they suggest Omas is because they know how the inks are made, while they specifically said that some other inks may be suitable they can't guarantee them in the pens. They ended with a specific request to please use only omas inks.

They didn't specifically say they would not warrant the pens, just that they wouldn't gauarantee the use of other inks. I suppose they would have to be able to establish a blue or black wasn't theirs before they would charge someone for the work or disallow it. Some of the other colors might be easily identified as non-Omas. Obviously it's not in the written warranty, but equally they it's obvious from the response they want the use of their ink. One more job for attorneys.

I'm no expert, my only suggestion when it comes to Omas is that if people are concerned about the vegital resins or celluloids and the whole subject in general consult with someone like John Mottishaw or Richard Binder are. I like Omas inks anyway, so I will continue to use them in my pens exclusively. I'm not sure Omas response adds much.

Does this pen have a metal section? I get nib creep but it stays on my nibs. Of course I have all cheap pens, and almost all have plastic sections. I have one Penatia, a discontinued Cross sub-brand, that has a metal section but when I put one of the permanent Noodler's blues in it it didn't get anything on the section.

I'm wondering what the path is for the ink to creep onto the section so I can avoid buying such pens.

I side with Kurt. If my pen leaks, I blame the pen first, and the ink last. When my Omas Paragon leaked, I blamed the pen.