i went to pen reviews and did not see one. there is one for sale on PT and i had only heard that CS had spotty quality problems. i know the lever on the front is a sac filler. i know it is an oversized pen but i cant visualize that.

how does the churchill compare, and is it bigger and heavier than a dolce vita oversize and is it heavier than a wall street by visconti

sam

Churchill is a very fine pen. People have complained about the lever and sack. While once in awhile mine have let go a little ink, they've been solid for a year, maybe two. I own a Bronze Marble fine italic, a Black EE gold trim and a silver trim BCHR too, and a razor shell. They are great writers a lot like Omas. Lighter than Visconti or the Germans. The only thing negative is the lever fills and the ink accumulation. Just now openned the Razor and it does give you a drop or two when you haven't used it for awhile.

It's one of my top 3 companies, even though I'll probably eventually have to have my sacks checked.

I have a cc filler Churchill and it's one of my best pens - definitely a non-seller. The nib is butter smooth and the medium nib a true medium.

Forget the lever garbage and get a normal cc filler.

Quality problems are from previous management of hte company. Current management has ironed those out.

i had asked this because i saw a churchill pen in a color i liked on PT but it had the lever fill. the price was about what i was going to pay for another pen. i had read it was a lighter pen than a visconti wall street, which was a plus, but that sac thing has me concerned.

how does this pen compare to a delta dolce vita. i had heard the delta was an awkward pen to write with.

sam

Delta's orange resin has a higher tendency to crack.

Churchill lever fillers are finicky.
But when it writes, it is a dream to write with.
I had one of mine professionally tweaked on the ink flow.

Oh, Churchill has 18kt hallmarked cap band and Delta has 925 Sterling hallmarked hand engraved cap band.

I like the Churchill and CS nibs better.

Churchill is light in weight but wide in body with a well-tapered section. So the hand will not really "feel" its girth as much.

Not sure how to compare, but if you can handle a Densho, MB149, or a Mikado, Churchill should be easy to handle.


Note :
I am listing 2 on PT and so please take this into consideration when reading my responses.

Why am I selling them ? I am changing my focus big time and have been purging big time, too = ) I do not think I would sell the Churchill if it's not the fact that I am changing my focus -- think "pen-condo remodelling".

Hope this helps.

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Hello Sam...

Here is one answer to your question...

Side by side, Churchill is longer than Dolcevita Oversize, section is thicker on Dolcevita and on the hand Churchill is much lighter than Delta. Dolcevita nib is bigger than Conway's which in turn is the same size as the used in the Duro's. Both feel very comfortable in the hand, Dolcevita (F) is very smooth and with its weight (47gr.) it helps in keeping this nib under control. Used to Deltas, Churchill seems very light (29gr.) but again with a smooth nib (F) it is a pleasure to use. I have sacs on most of my FPs and I keep an eye on theese every 6-6 years if inked previously. No problems whatsoever and once used to the lever, they are very rewarding. May be a question of taste...

Hope it helps...

I had a series of lever filler Churchills from the initial batch that cut the sac with the end of the bar so that ink would leak out. It took most of a year and I think 4 pens ( replacements or repairs) before I finally gave up on Churchills.


This being said I got a button filler later that I had high hopes for that also went back for repair and after some time for sale.


It's a pen I really want to like but I have so much bad feelings about I just can't seem to long term.

As for the oversized DV mine leaked behind the section where the black and orange join so there was a dark bloom in the material. I returned it and got a replacement but this was the second one that had some material issues so I'm off of that pen as well!


Kurt H

The Churchill looks impressive partly because the whole pen is made from the same coloured plastic. Most other manufacturers compromise by making the section black, or more recently silver.

i noticed that as well and that is what i love about my bexley sheherazade. i like richard binders special submariner grande and wished it was all unibody like that as well

sam

That ain't necessarily true The button fillers have the end caps black and the rest as a single material


Kurt H

[quote=Tytyvyllus,Mar 21 2006, 12:36 AM] [/QUOTE]
That ain't necessarily true The button fillers have the end caps black and the rest as a single material


Kurt H [/quote]
Oh dear. I'm wrong again. :doh:

I thought that the song went: "It ain't necessarily so".

I have to admit that I really like the look of the CS line. For lack of a better description, they maintain a very classic appearance while too many of the higher end pens, Italian ones in particular, are just a little too flashy with lots of metal of one sort or another, big dramatic clips, etc...

I've been asked to provide a range of some pens I'd like to my wife for our 10th anniversary and the Churchill, 58 and Dandy all make the list. I'd like to try them out as I'm a little intimidated by the size of the Churchill but love the looks. Still, the lukewarm responses here are a bit disheartening since they are expensive pens. But those materials and styling wow.

Maybe someone can suggest another line in a similar price range that has similar materials and styling but perhaps more reliable?