Onion
Mar 19 2006, 06:44 PM
I saw a discussion of this somewhere but trhe search option says it is disbabled????? Anyway, which brands of ink are lubricated? I have some new inks that seem to be non lubed as they are very scratchy in my Pelikan, but when I use others it writes smooth.
KCat
Mar 19 2006, 10:13 PM
Not sure what you mean - the "lubricating" inks that have been discussed lately have been in reference to lubricating pistons vs. nibs. All inks should lubricate the nib to one degree or another and it may simply be that your Pel is a bit of a dry writer and what you really need is a "wetter" (faster flowing) ink, vs. a more lubricating ink.
re: the search message - that seems to happen sometimes if the search simply doesn't come up with an answer. Especially if you forget to select "All" for the category/forum or if you limit the search by name or something. I find searches more thorough if I make sure to select at least 90 days - sometimes our memory of when a topic came up and where is less reliable than we think. If I get an error message when searching, I widen the search. Also, it seems to almost always hiccough if I tell it to "match exact name." some search functions may only be available if you have the licensed version of this board software.
KendallJ
Mar 20 2006, 01:38 AM
QUOTE (Johnny Mannion @ Mar 19 2006, 02:44 PM)
Anyway, which brands of ink are lubricated? I have some new inks that seem to be non lubed as they are very scratchy in my Pelikan, but when I use others it writes smooth.
Uh... too much credit to the ink and not enough to the pen. When one pen writes scratchy, I'd start by blaming the nib...
Pelikans nibs are characteristically more toothy than other nibs. A little mylar would do the trick I think.
Technically, all inks are lubricants.
Goodwhiskers
Mar 20 2006, 06:08 PM
Some ink brands lubricate writing more than others from the same pen, at least in my experience.
Noodler's, Waterman, Pelikan, Private Reserve, Levenger and Sailor have been described here on the FPN by many contributors as "very lubricating."
I've had that experience with Noodler's (standard red, green & brown, black, blue-black, and aircorp blue-black), Waterman (purple/violet), Pelikan (royal blue) and Levenger (raven black, cocoa, cobalt blue, fireball and gemstone green).
Diamine, Sheaffer Skrip (both new stock and old stock) and Parker Quink have been described here by many contributors as one step down in writing lubrication (still lubricating, but not as much).
I can report that experience with Quink Washable Blue, old stock Skrip Red and new stock Skrip Purple, Blue and Turquoise. I can also report it with Pilot/Namiki Blue-Black.
J. Herbin and Mont Blanc have been described here as non-lubricating, even though they flow very well.
I haven't tried either of those brands yet. I've tried Lamy Blue and Blue-Black, both from cartridges. They flow well but hardly lubricate at all, so I guess they would go into this last category.
Rich
Mar 20 2006, 11:22 PM
Here is something I read recently regarding Noodler's line of eel inks which are supposed to help lubricate pens with piston filling mechanisms:
http://www.swisherpens.com/catalog/noodler...ain-pen-ink.htmBest,
Rich
Titivillus
Mar 21 2006, 12:46 AM
QUOTE (Rich @ Mar 20 2006, 05:22 PM)
Here is something I read recently regarding Noodler's line of eel inks which are supposed to help lubricate pens with piston filling mechanisms:
http://www.swisherpens.com/catalog/noodler...ain-pen-ink.htmBest,
Rich
Don't believe everyrhing that you read.

If I recall several sellers have stopped selling that line for issues.
K
The Noble Savage
Mar 21 2006, 03:39 PM
This question can have too meanings, thats for sure!!! Lubricating for the piston? Well The Noodlers Eel inks are supposed to provide lubrication to sticky piston fillers. There were some issues with the Eel inks from Noodlers. The major problem that I read about was the issue of skipping. I believe it was pendemonium who would not carry the Noodlers eel inks. I for one have not experienced any issues with skipping with eel inks. I own the American Blue Eel ink and the Cactus Fruit Eel ink and I really love the colors!!! The only major drawback to these inks that I have experienced is that the ink seems to have an oily or greasy feel to it. This ink take forever to dry!!! If you think PR DC SS Blue or PR Sherwood green takes forever, youve seen nothing yet!!! I really didnt notice a difference in my piston. Have have a piston on my Montblanc that was a little sticky. I used the eel inks for about 2 to 3 weeks and it seemed to help a bit but nothing drastic!!
That is the major issue that I found with them!!. In my pens, they seem to flow well but nothing like Aurora Black or DC SS Blue, American Blue.
Ok now here is the other way I could have interpeted the question. When you write and the nib seems to glide effortlessley across the paper and the ink is a super flowing type. Then I would say the following inks seems to offer nice lubrication qualities. Now, A lot does have to do with the nib but also the paper and Ink too!! These are the ones that I know from Experience with the inks in my collection.
Aurora Black
Private Reserve
DC SS Blue
American Blue
Sherwood Green
Tanzanite
Plum
Waterman
Floriada Blue
Blue Black
Parker Quink
Black
Blue/Black
Levenger Ink in general
Noodlers
Blue
American Eel Blue
Cactus Fruit
Aircorp Blue/black
I am sure there are more but these are IMHO pretty wet flowing inks that provide lubrication between the nib and the paper.
TNS
Eternally Noodling
Mar 23 2006, 11:12 PM
American Eel inks went through several formulations...adjusting to market wants and tastes. Initially they had a high level of lubrication (the highest of any fountain pen ink since the 1930s) but in response to the needs of modern plastic feed pens they were adjusted. The market has a habit of never recognizing a new concept as having the potential for trial and error - and corrections. Either it is absolutely perfect or it is instantly written off. If that attitude were in the majority there would be NO innovation whatsoever in inks.
They are again in full distribution, though not yet announced as the distributor is going through a reorganization. They are an ink for a niche market of plunger and piston fill users...particularly made for the sheaffer plunger filler when being tested in the lab.
krz
Mar 24 2006, 03:12 AM
QUOTE (Eternally Noodling @ Mar 23 2006, 11:12 PM)
particularly made for the sheaffer plunger filler when being tested in the lab.
My Tucky's just sighed in relief.
I was wondering about that.
klemenv
Mar 27 2006, 07:26 PM
In case of nib lubrication, Noodlers ink are second to none. I had a bad nib and only ink that I was able to use was Noodler (I haven't tried Aurora Black). There are many other fine inks, some with better flow (e.g. Tanzanite), but as of lubrication, Noodler is second to none.
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