winedoc
Mar 9 2006, 05:21 PM
This first one is the CS Cracked Ice done with solid 18kt white gold as base. I think the pattern is to mimick the vintage resin version? Retail for this pen is $18,000. Too rich for me for a non-Maki-e pen. The pen is already on the way to a customer and at least I got to "own" these pens for a few hours. Gorgeous pen!




Enjoy.
Kevin
Gatorade
Mar 9 2006, 05:26 PM
$18,000
$18,000
$18,000
$18,000
Thud...... (Charlie falling on the floor)
chupie
Mar 9 2006, 05:50 PM
*gasp*
SimonWang
Mar 9 2006, 05:52 PM
SimonWang
Mar 9 2006, 05:57 PM
Absolutely beautiful...
To winedoc:
Are you selling CS FPs online ? I'm in UK now, I wonder if I can get one of thoes special editions from you.
winedoc
Mar 9 2006, 06:31 PM
QUOTE (SimonWang @ Mar 9 2006, 09:57 AM)
Absolutely beautiful...
To winedoc:
Are you selling CS FPs online ? I'm in UK now, I wonder if I can get one of thoes special editions from you.
Hi Simon,
Yes, I am authorized dealer for CS, Danitrio, Loiminchay and the new AP Pens. Please PM me or email me as to which pen you have in mind, and I'll help you obtain one... or two... or three
Best,
Kevin
garythepenman
Mar 9 2006, 07:06 PM
A beautiful pen but a little on the $$$$$ side. Kevin, you are lucky indeed to hold these pens even for just a few hours.
For 1/100th of the price you could buy my vintage #58 tiger eye
Gary
KendallJ
Mar 9 2006, 11:30 PM
Hey Kevin, whats the book underneath the pen?
winedoc
Mar 9 2006, 11:36 PM
QUOTE (KendallJ @ Mar 9 2006, 03:30 PM)
Hey Kevin, whats the book underneath the pen?
take a guess. I think someone here knows... one word in the first picture tell you the title of the book... good luck.
Kev
garythepenman
Mar 9 2006, 11:46 PM
I'm not from the USA but I would guess something to do with independance and the constitution ca 1776 ?
Gary
Elaine
Mar 10 2006, 01:30 AM
Ok, so now my dream pens are sooooo out of reach there's no way I can even dream. That cracked ice is one beautiful pen.
Denis Richard
Mar 10 2006, 01:46 AM
QUOTE (garythepenman @ Mar 9 2006, 03:46 PM)
I'm not from the USA but I would guess something to do with independance and the constitution ca 1776 ?
Gary
older
garythepenman
Mar 10 2006, 01:50 AM
Older ?

Plato ?
Denis Richard
Mar 10 2006, 01:51 AM
QUOTE (garythepenman @ Mar 9 2006, 05:50 PM)
Older ?

Plato ?

And the prize goes tooooooooooooo... Mr.Cracked Nib
Stylo
Mar 10 2006, 03:29 AM
Regardless of price, this pen doesn't do anything for me. I'll take almost any of the regular CS finishes over this one. Am I the only one?
andyr7
Mar 10 2006, 08:34 AM
QUOTE
Regardless of price, this pen doesn't do anything for me. I'll take almost any of the regular CS finishes over this one. Am I the only one?
I quite agree, Stylo - this pen is an insult to the history of CS (same with the modern gold floral), which is a shame, some of the modern CS (especially the understated ones) are really quite good!
It's nice to know I'm not quite the only one to think this way. Does anyone else want to stand up to be counted?!!
Andy
Greg
Mar 10 2006, 09:41 AM
It is a beautiful pen but I can't imagine wanting to pay the value of a small house on a pen which is pretending to be something else.
I wonder why CS didn't produce it in acrylic version, like the old one on which it is based?
No doubt they will sell as, for a less 'pure' purchaser it is a stunning pen, but like some of you, not for me (as if it would be an option anyway!)
Greg
Kees
Mar 10 2006, 12:43 PM
Sorry, guys, but I think this pen certainly qualifies as an “understated CS”. It’s $18,000, remember? I know lots of pens trying to look more expensive than this one, even in the $20 range...
I wouldn’t choose the “cracked ice” finish myself (I’d go for the small house!) ... the nib is exquisite, though.
winedoc
Mar 10 2006, 05:05 PM
Obviously a pen like this is not for everyone. I like the look of it, but personally will not pay that price for a non Maki-e pen.... It will be different if it is a Maki-e pen

That said, we can't all love the same thing. In fact, I think it is good that CS is producing pens in ALL different price range with different materials from understated ebonite, to colorful resins, to Jewelry pens, and to Maki-e. I don't think a pen maker should produce pens only to satisfy the one section of the market. They should try, at least to appeal, to other sections of the market. After all, taste is a personal thing, and how one spent his/her fortune is also a personal thing.
Kev
Johnny Appleseed
Mar 10 2006, 06:24 PM
QUOTE
QUOTE
QUOTE (garythepenman @ Mar 9 2006, 05:50 PM)
Older ? Plato ?
And the prize goes tooooooooooooo... Mr.Cracked Nib
Plato's
Politics?
Close, but not quite right.
John
winedoc
Mar 10 2006, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (Johnny Appleseed @ Mar 10 2006, 10:24 AM)
QUOTE
QUOTE
QUOTE (garythepenman @ Mar 9 2006, 05:50 PM)
Older ? Plato ?
And the prize goes tooooooooooooo... Mr.Cracked Nib
Plato's
Politics?
Close, but not quite right.
John
But you are right!!!
Kev
garythepenman
Mar 10 2006, 11:05 PM
Yeah....what a guess...cool...do I get an $18,000 cracked ice pen that nobody likes
Johnny Appleseed
Mar 10 2006, 11:24 PM
Gary - I believe you were wrong, and Winedoc was saying that I was right (or at least, I was hinting right).
It is Aristotles Politics. Plato had Laws, Statesman, and The Republic, but it was Aristotle that had Politics, and this is an excerpt.
Of course, Aristotle in some ways suffered the ultimate academic indignity (well, I guess it wasn't as bad as Socrates), which makes the nice binding of books like this somewhat ironic. If I am correct, he never actually wrote anything finished for publication - all of his writing is his lecture notes. Really they should be printed on lined legal-pad paper, with scribbling in the margin.
So no, you don't get the pen - but you can get an unfinished celluloid cracked-ice pen blank - you have to polish it yourself.
John
garythepenman
Mar 11 2006, 01:50 AM
Oh dear, well never mind.
I've only ever read Aristophonese from that era, very funny and a great dig at the politicians of his time.
As for cracked ice, I've only got the stuff you put in scotch.
Gary
Johnny Appleseed
Mar 11 2006, 04:52 PM
And I confess that I had a little google help to figure it out - though I have read Aristotle.
And of course, from the classic song:
"Aristotle, Artistotle
was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hume was fond of his dram..."
So your scotch fits right in.
Oh dear., were thread-shifting again...
Greg
Mar 13 2006, 10:16 AM
(trying to get this mack on subject) Terry Jones apparantly writes his books thus:
“I use a pen and ordinary exercise books. I write on the right hand page, then I do corrections and add bits on the left hand side later.”
I wonder if that's a Monty Blanc
Greg
Kees
Mar 13 2006, 11:39 AM
Aristotle wrote with a Bic ballpoint pen.

I would have recognized the book if it had been a Greek edition...
Johnny Appleseed
Mar 13 2006, 03:47 PM
I can't seem to find the link right now, but I seem to recall somebody out there had an article on their web-page discussing a potential fountain pen from ancient Greece. It was a description of a reed pen (writing done on paper was generally done with a cut reed back then) in which ink could be stored inside the reed. I'll have to see if I can find the link.
John
Stylo
Mar 13 2006, 11:43 PM
QUOTE (Kees @ Mar 10 2006, 04:43 AM)
Sorry, guys, but I think this pen certainly qualifies as an “understated CS”. It’s $18,000, remember?
Just because a pen doesn't look its outrageous price doesn't mean it is understated. There is nothing understated in its look. It looks like it could be right out of an old black and white comic book. It also resembles too much the zebra-like pattern you see on some "out-there" purses. I don't see anything original or special. It is not worth the price in materials or artistry. So who might be wearing it? If I had to guess, I'd say this guy:
Kees
Mar 14 2006, 09:51 AM
Cool!

Can he write?
Greg
Mar 14 2006, 10:30 AM
maybe, but this guy (Mario Cipollini) can ride.
I wonder if that bike has a 14K chain.
Greg
Mary Burke
Mar 14 2006, 05:38 PM
Stylo
Mar 14 2006, 06:19 PM
Hhhmmmm, I like these so much more, each for different reasons, and while I am not into Maki-e, and I hope I wil never be for my pocketbook's sake

, the Maki-e detail closeups are simlpy exquisite!
There is no escaping ever the maxim "les goûts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas."
Mary Burke
Mar 14 2006, 07:14 PM
We also make a solid 18 carat gold Duro with a US list price of $14K.
Here is a picture of our solid gold Centenary Overlay. The filigree was crafted by Henry Simpole. List for this solid gold pen was $3K. Only 10 pieces were crafted and they sold out in a few hours.

... So many lovely pens ... I
really need to win the lottery

Kind regards,
Mary Burke
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