Anyone know what they are?

I do

-david

wise ass


The top one is a Triumph looks like a Vac-Filler.
Has it been restored? If not it most likely will need professional help.
Many good repair personnel are available.
The other is a Military Clip Balance maybe a Defender or Vigilant.
Lever fill may need a new sac. Can be done it's simple but some parts and technique is necessary.
Both should have nice smooth nibs.


Nice pens!

Just kidding David!...sorta


Steve

I would be offended but I know how much you contribute, I enjoy your posts so I won't be a wise ass.
Neither have been restored, if these prove to be too difficult I will have them sent off. I was lucky and got an aerometric 51 that worked after a good flushing. Thanks for the help though.

Geez, try to give a completely honest answer, and everyone busts one's chops

BTW- nice pens. But, the plunger Sheaffers ARE difficult to restore, if one is not experienced with them.

A pro fix probably would be best. Whoever ends up doing the fix, make sure they are using Ron Zorn's front end material. Pretty sure Richard, Sean and Gerry Berg have grabbed some from him. And, any of the restorers can buy some from him if need it.

regards

-d