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NABodie
Can any of you 51 experts id this cap from this pittiful photo?

Thanks for any help.
OldGriz
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 8 2008, 03:53 PM) *
Can any of you 51 experts id this cap from this pittiful photo?

Thanks for any help.


It appears to be a standard sterling silver cap for a 51 Vac
richardandtracy
Griz,
Are these caps solid silver or rolled on to a base metal?
I have a P51 with a silver cap myself, and it is much more dented than a custom cap, so I sort of assume it must be solid. If so, I've never held so much silver in my hand before!

Regards

Richard.
NABodie
So this is the standard Sterling Silver cap with gold filled clip, lined pattern with chevron band?
ANM
It looks to me like a solid silver cap. If it says sterling silver on the cap, it is solid sterling, which is 92.5% pure silver.
NABodie
QUOTE (ANM @ Oct 9 2008, 09:27 AM) *
It looks to me like a solid silver cap. If it says sterling silver on the cap, it is solid sterling, which is 92.5% pure silver.


So it was worth the $40 I paid for it. Thanks!
Glenn-SC
Bodie you dog!

Good buy!!!!!
NABodie
hmm1.gif mellow.gif biggrin.gif clap1.gif bunny01.gif I might be a little happy about it. bunny01.gif bunny01.gif bunny01.gif
MYU
Another sumgai joins the ranks. Congrats! smile.gif How does it write? Was the vac diaphragm in good shape when you found it?
NABodie
It should be here next week. I'll most likely have to have the diaphram replaced. I'll post some better pics when it gets here. This cap would be proper on my 47 vac wouldn't it? I could swap the cap til I get this one fixed up.
luckygrandson
Good for you!

Steve
david i
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 9 2008, 07:00 AM) *
So this is the standard Sterling Silver cap with gold filled clip, lined pattern with chevron band?


Standard is such a loaded word smile.gif

Even with Photoshop, I cannot ascertain if the band pattern at bottom of pen is "first year/first style" or post-first-style, but the hint of blue diamond suggests a post first year style.

Whilst lined sterling caps (solid sterling with rhodium(?) plating) are not uncommon, they are more desirable, generally, than many of the GF caps or than typical lustraloy. Hard to find clean

-d
david i
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 9 2008, 09:44 AM) *
QUOTE (ANM @ Oct 9 2008, 09:27 AM) *
It looks to me like a solid silver cap. If it says sterling silver on the cap, it is solid sterling, which is 92.5% pure silver.


So it was worth the $40 I paid for it. Thanks!


Should be, if tolerably clean. Even if needs dedinging (but if not trashed) should be well worth price of entry.

d
NABodie
QUOTE (david i @ Oct 9 2008, 10:34 PM) *
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 9 2008, 07:00 AM) *
So this is the standard Sterling Silver cap with gold filled clip, lined pattern with chevron band?


Standard is such a loaded word smile.gif

Even with Photoshop, I cannot ascertain if the band pattern at bottom of pen is "first year/first style" or post-first-style, but the hint of blue diamond suggests a post first year style.

Whilst lined sterling caps (solid sterling with rhodium(?) plating) are not uncommon, they are more desirable, generally, than many of the GF caps or than typical lustraloy. Hard to find clean

-d



Thanks David. Which is this you have pictured and what are the diffrences in the two?

The full discription I have is: "Cap is marked " Sterling Silver, made in USA ", the pen is marked " Parker "51", made in USA, .2.", cap is tarnished and has a few light dings, the pen has a name impressed on the barrel, the plunger is amber color with a black tip, this feels like it is stuck and I did not force it, sold as-is."

Thanks for all the help.
david i
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 9 2008, 11:01 PM) *
QUOTE (david i @ Oct 9 2008, 10:34 PM) *
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 9 2008, 07:00 AM) *
So this is the standard Sterling Silver cap with gold filled clip, lined pattern with chevron band?


Standard is such a loaded word smile.gif

Even with Photoshop, I cannot ascertain if the band pattern at bottom of pen is "first year/first style" or post-first-style, but the hint of blue diamond suggests a post first year style.

Whilst lined sterling caps (solid sterling with rhodium(?) plating) are not uncommon, they are more desirable, generally, than many of the GF caps or than typical lustraloy. Hard to find clean

-d



Thanks David. Which is this you have pictured and what are the diffrences in the two?


Happy to share my hack-amateur-newbie view...

The earliest lined sterling caps have the chevron deco band <<>>> which for one of the panels has a single bisecting line running longitudinally instead of multiple lines chopping through the chevrons.

Generally, early/first-year caps have the large diamond on the clip, and iirc other chats has a stamped "parker" such that if one looks at back of the clip can see "Parker" mirrored and incuse (vs smooth)

Then there is the four finger instead of five finger clutch, though I've seen plenty of early-style caps (even with the big diamond) with the 5-clutch. As with many things Parker, it is likely that not all features evolved the same day.

Still, here is the obvious difference between first style and the well more common later lined sterling caps.

regards
d
NABodie
Now I'm chompin at the bit for it to get here. Should of splurged for expidited shipping on it.
NABodie
OK here is what came out of the mail box this evening. The body is indeed marked .2. black in color, the nib is a smooth fine, no major scratches. The filling system needs an over haul but I expected that. What do you clean this with? Regular silver cleaner or polish?
david i
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 14 2008, 07:11 PM) *
OK here is what came out of the mail box this evening. The body is indeed marked .2. black in color, the nib is a smooth fine, no major scratches. The filling system needs an over haul but I expected that. What do you clean this with? Regular silver cleaner or polish?


As expected, a non-first-year lined sterling.

Rhodium plating on it (looks like you have partial coverage) is fragile. Offhand, i suggest just a jeweler's polishing cloth. If has dings, the dings can be removed, at cost around $40.

regards

david
NABodie
Who is a good de-dinger as there are 3 or 4 small dings on the backside, and can the original finish be restored?
david i
QUOTE (NABodie @ Oct 14 2008, 08:43 PM) *
Who is a good de-dinger as there are 3 or 4 small dings on the backside, and can the original finish be restored?


Not sure if anyone out there is doing good job replating with Rhodium. If the finish is iffy, many polish away the rhodium to give even warm silver.

Daniel and Ron de-ding for customers. Richard, possibly- i just don't recall.

regards

david
richardandtracy
Do I remember correctly..?
I think FountainBell said he did Rhodium plating on one of his pen parts. Possibly you could contact him to see if he could do it, or ask him how he does it & have a go yourself.

Regards

Richard.
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