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broker
The pen can be seen in this local (Brazil) action web site.

http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-815...-modelo-149-_JM






niksch
QUOTE (broker @ Sep 28 2008, 02:33 PM) *
The pen can be seen in this local (Brazil) action web site.http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-815...-modelo-149-_JM


Hi broker-

I think this is a typical mid-80s 149 with a medium nib. I couldn't really determine condition from the Q&A at that site. And if I did the conversion correctly, I think it's a little highly priced at ~US$380.

Eric
penparadise
On the pics 4 and 5 it looks like the small cap bands are silver. That indicates a celluloide body and that makes the pen worth quite a bit more ...

Axel
niksch
QUOTE (penparadise @ Sep 28 2008, 04:03 PM) *
On the pics 4 and 5 it looks like the small cap bands are silver. That indicates a celluloide body and that makes the pen worth quite a bit more ...

Axel


Axel-
If the rings were silver, then you would be right, the pen would be worth more. But, I disagree and here are my reasons. The ink window, although a little difficult to see, seems to indicate a modern 149. The gold ring that separates the barrel from the turning knob appears flush to the barrel/knob, rather than rounded as we should expect on a celluloid body. What I will call the nib collar, which would be an integral piece of the grip section on the celluloid 149, appears matte in finish and not as "stepped" as a vintage 149, and was one of the reasons I dated the pen as I did. Another reason was the nib, which is two tone 14K, and I would expect a gold-plat-gold tri-toned nib on a 149 with a celluloid body (I'll admit that older nibs are often damaged and replaced with more modern nibs, so nibs may not be the most accurate dating device for a pen body/cap).

Eric
Michael R.
QUOTE (niksch @ Sep 28 2008, 03:00 PM) *
QUOTE (penparadise @ Sep 28 2008, 04:03 PM) *
On the pics 4 and 5 it looks like the small cap bands are silver. That indicates a celluloide body and that makes the pen worth quite a bit more ...

Axel


Axel-
If the rings were silver, then you would be right, the pen would be worth more. But, I disagree and here are my reasons. The ink window, although a little difficult to see, seems to indicate a modern 149. The gold ring that separates the barrel from the turning knob appears flush to the barrel/knob, rather than rounded as we should expect on a celluloid body. What I will call the nib collar, which would be an integral piece of the grip section on the celluloid 149, appears matte in finish and not as "stepped" as a vintage 149, and was one of the reasons I dated the pen as I did. Another reason was the nib, which is two tone 14K, and I would expect a gold-plat-gold tri-toned nib on a 149 with a celluloid body (I'll admit that older nibs are often damaged and replaced with more modern nibs, so nibs may not be the most accurate dating device for a pen body/cap).

Eric


I have to agree with Eric, no celluloid because of the above reasons. My guess is mid 80's to 90's.


Cheers

Michael
broker
Hi guys, thanks for the precise inputs, I let it go, no box and papers, no prove of purchase and etc, will wait for my WTB toppic in the forum, thanks a lot.
regards
fernando
salesguy2008
Looks exactly like my 1990 149 that I had as a wedding present.
georges zaslavsky
As far as I remember, the duotone nibs appeared in the late seventies, if it has the new modern resin construction you should be able to see it because of a small line of the barrel join where the body and nib were assembled.
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