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penmanila
hi, folks--my latest ebay exploit: it was late at night, was trawling ebay to wake up while working on a book, and saw this horribly misspelled ad for an "old fashon belikam gunther wagner pen" plus a bottle of ink. well, i knew who gunther wagner was (he used to own pelikan), so i took a look and placed a bid. this morning, about 12 hours later, i won the pen (after some furious last-minute bidding) for $64.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=320302242470



i'm still not sure exactly what i bought (it's hard to tell from the pic, but i think it's the M150 gunther wagner, also recently sold by jjblanche here at FPN for about the same price, but it's supposed to be very hard to find, having been produced in limited numbers in 2002).

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=66263

any experiences with this pen welcome wink.gif
mtarrani
QUOTE (penmanila @ Sep 27 2008, 10:25 PM) *
hi, folks--my latest ebay exploit: it was late at night, was trawling ebay to wake up while working on a book, and saw this horribly misspelled ad for an "old fashon belikam gunther wagner pen" plus a bottle of ink. well, i knew who gunther wagner was (he used to own pelikan), so i took a look and placed a bid. this morning, about 12 hours later, i won the pen (after some furious last-minute bidding) for $64.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...em=320302242470



i'm still not sure exactly what i bought (it's hard to tell from the pic, but i think it's the M150 gunther wagner, also recently sold by jjblanche here at FPN for about the same price, but it's supposed to be very hard to find, having been produced in limited numbers in 2002).

http://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/in...showtopic=66263

Good catch! I have one in a large tin Pelikan Gunter Wagner box with pen and ink bottle that I have been pondering whether to throw on eBay or hang on to it for a bit longer. If it goes the eBay route you can be sure I'll spell it correctly smile.gif
any experiences with this pen welcome wink.gif

printhardcopy
There is no special edition m150.

From the picture i see it look like old style m400. Good deal !
penmanila
hmm, thanks for the info, printhardcopy. i know you're a pelikan dealer so you'll know a lot more about pelikans than most of us, but i wonder what that makes of the M150 in jjblanche's post (see link above), which seems to have the same pen and the same contents as the one in my ebay item? was there ever an M400 gunther wagner? is there a listing of pelikan special editions somewhere? (i've googled for one, but have yet to find it.) thanks!
printhardcopy
Look at my picture below.

Is my m150 "special edition" too.

It is a old style m150 too.

JJB is selling at good price for that m150.

Maybe yours really special edition of old style m400.





printhardcopy
How about this too ?

Special edition too.

I guess it is special edition box.
penmanila
right, thanks again, maybe i'll just have to wait to get the pen to see what it is wink.gif
printhardcopy
Yes. It is rather confusing sometimes. I question pelikan many times too about those pens.

Cos pelikan got 170 years of history.

That time im not born yet.

Maybe it is the confusion that make the pen interesting (That is what i thought of)

From history of 5 small birds with 1 big bird till the today 1 small bird with 1 big bird.

I guess it is rather a interesting story which i really love it.
mtarrani
The one I have is clearly a 150. Here are some photos of the packaging and a side-by-side of the 150 with an M400:





Compared to an M400 (blue stripe model) - note the different clip style and Pelikan logo on the cap. The 150 has a plated nib, which definitely places it below an M400.


DougS
The black pen appears to be an M200 if it is the same length as that M400. Is it 5" long? If so, it isn't a 150.

--Doug
mtarrani
QUOTE (DougS @ Sep 28 2008, 06:50 PM) *
The black pen appears to be an M200 if it is the same length as that M400. Is it 5" long? If so, it isn't a 150.

--Doug



OK, I'll concede it's an M200 smile.gif I honestly have a hard time telling the lower end Pelikans from one another.
printhardcopy
It is not m200.

It is old style m250.

Of course provided the nib is 14 k nib.

old style m250 and old style m400 is using the same nib.

penmanila
hmmm, curiouser and curiouser wink.gif i never thought this would be such a mystery.
printhardcopy
Later i take photo of m150, m200, m250, m400 together.

Maybe everything will be clear.

For information sometime in ebay, they will say m250 demo with 14k nib. however, m250 never come out with demo.

Only m200 demo.

However, m200 is able to use m250 and m400 old style nib.

There is alot confusion over these pens.

printhardcopy
From left to right

old style m150, new style m200, new style m250, old style m250, old style m400

I hope that the picture is clear enough to differential btw all these pens.

penmanila
many thanks again, printhardcopy. and since the pen in my ebay picture doesn't have a gold ring at the piston end and seems to have only one ring on the cap lip, it has to be.... an old-style M150 wink.gif l
casadellastilografica
Hi Guest of FPN!

I just send a pic of the new Pelikan M150 170th for the italian market.
The pen is like before, but with a new dedicated Box.

Ciao
Marco Moricci
www.stilografica.it
casadellastilografica
On Ebay, the pics of the Box 170th anniversary Pelikan M150

Ciao
Marco
andyk
Hi

I always thought the giveaway on the M150 apart from the size is that the single cap band is slightly taperd and not flat like the other models (at least I've never seen another model with that type of cap band).

Andy
printhardcopy
If im correct, that is new style m150.

penmanila
mystery solved: got the pen today (i was traveling for a while), and when i opened the box: a mint, stickered M400 with a single band around the cap. very nice, especially for the price (and the bottle of ink and the gunther wagner box).
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