I just got this Pelikan Demo recently. This little birdie has all its entrails on display, so perhaps its not for the faint of heart. I think it looks pretty cool tho; what would be cooler would be if the labels were in German. But I guess that probably won't be such a novelty for German speakers! The labels appear mainly on one side only. As everyone probably knew, this Demo is based on the M800 Souveran series, and it handles like one with brass piston and so on. I hope it won't stain too easily cos' I intend to feed it with bright colored inks only. I took some snapshots in case anyone wanna have a look. I recall someone was trying to sell this at an amusing price not too long ago. I got it at a fair price from who else ?

I cant see your picture.

It's a VERY transparent pen.

Good prices and that seller seem to go together hand in hand.

K

And since the printing is in white ....


Nib must be "white gold" too.

Is there a label on the nib that says nib?

Unfortunately no. But you know there's a cute imprint of a nesting pelican on the nib? There's a label beneath it that says "Rupert", and I'd always thought it was a girl pelican!

Very nice pictures, Bananafish, and a very beautiful pen, too

Bill

Great! I must have one!

Wow! Kewl pen! I would love to have the 2 versions of M800 demo.. My only comment would be that the M800 pelikan cap should ideally be transparent like the vintage M400 or M200 (old style aka dome cap) series.. Just IMHO..

I'm envious. Very cool.

Hi,

Nice looking pen, do they come without the engraving though, personally I think that detracts from the pen, but I guess you pay your money and take your choice.

Enjoy the pen.

Andy

The one I got from Art Brown had no labelling. Only available in M nib though.

I'm so glad you posted pics of this pen. Seeing wonderful, up close, photos of pens I might not personally own is one of the best facets of FPN. In some way I don't know if I want to see the "guts" so readily. While it appeals to my love of pen innards, I don't know if I'd enjoy replacing the external beauty of my pens. I like to coordinate my pens with the occassion/use and often coordinate them with the leather folio i'm using in meetings.

I must say, tho, that your coordination withe Black and Red journal is fantastic!

Thanks

How do the Red&Black notebooks hold up? I don't usually like that type of coiling, because after so many times of folding it back on itself, you end up loosing the back cover and the last few pages. I was wondering if Red&Blacks do that?

Also... what red are you using? And does it have any nib "gumming" issues?

wow I thought the labels were photoshopped on that's what I get for being too interested in the photos to read the text

Kurt

FloridaRandy, I enjoy looking at others' pen photos a lot. I have a folder full of downloaded pen photos from FPN just to look at occasionally, which included your very tempting Aurora Reflessi!

Usui, the Black & Red seems to hold up well so far. The covers are plastic so I think it should hold up better than cardborad-based covers.

The red ink is Stipula Dark Red, I think. I'm hesistant because I got it a few months ago from Pendemodium together with the Florentine Red. The two were so similar in colors I thought there might be a mistake. The Stipula inks have no labels on them, but just some dot-samples on their boxes. And Sam at Pendemonium helpfully stuck labels to differentiate them, but I've since lost the labels!

I did leave them on different shelves, however, so if there's no mistake I think it's the Dark Red. It's a lovely velvety red, no hint of orange at all; one of my favs. I love red; probably have more than 10 different red inks, lol. I don't know about gumming cos' I haven't left them idle in any pen for long. I find the Stipula inks, however, to be less saturated than most except the Herbins, so perhaps gumming shouldn't be a problem.

KCAT, shouldn't you be hitting the books instead?!

In my defense, I had just submitted yesterday's assignment and finished today's assignment this a.m. at 11.

Girl's gotta take a break from all those words sometime!

Beautiful pen and I love the labeling. Just fortunate it's an 800. If it was a 600 size, I'd a been done fer. The red ink looks yummy.

I also posted this in the 800 demonstrator review thread:

Could some kindly comment on the differences in weight/balance between the 800 demonstrator
and the standard 800/805 pen? Also, how does the durability of the demonstrator compare
to a non-demonstrator? Does the material difference affect much?

As always, any and all info is appreciated.

m

I put both the Demo & a M800 on the scale, no ink, and they came out 1oz each. They handle the same too balance wise; I find no problem with their balance, but I recall someone found it unbalance due to the brass piston. It's likely personal preference I think.

I can't comment on their durability, yet. I don't know how the materials differ in terms of durability, but I'd think scratches are likely to be more visible on the Demo cos' it's clear plastic, but less so on the striated versions. I think if care has been taken they should last a while yet, else I'd Chartpak

Nice pen, and cute kitty!

Thank you! Well, I guess we all know now what my next pen is.... FPN!!!! (in a Wrath of Khan voice)

Hello,

Im wondering you guys prefer with etching or without etching of m800 demo ?

Trying to understand which one is more popular.

Thanks

The photo attached is without etching.(sorry for my lousy photography skill)

I definitely prefer the demonstrator without any labels imprinted in the barrel.

I struggled with the decision of labels or no labels. I decided to get the one without labels. I ordered a bottle of the new Noodlers Pinstripe ink to go in it. With any luck it should be in my hot little hands bu Thrusday...
Ken.

Can i create to list to summaries the people who like etching or without etching for m800 (The list can be auto added on it)

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)

I think it looks good with or without labels. I picked one with labels due entirely to its novelty. For a while, I wasn't keen on demos at all. And I figured out it was because a piston-filler looked better naked than a C/C filler. With piston-filler there are more innards to look at, and the larger amount of visible sloshing ink probably help, but YMMV.

KenS, your hot little hands may melt it

printhardcopy, it'd be interesting to see the result!

artaddict - thanks! Is that you looking cool in a white pair of shades? Reminds me of a nice tropical vacation

Please add yourself with which one if your favourites. Thanks

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)

Thanks, Bananafish! Yep, it's me.

I´ll go without.

...and that´s how I asked my local dealer to go look for it. I hope they will return with information about pricing and delivery time soon!

They came back with the message from the Danish Pelikan agent, that such a thing couldn´t possible be sold to regular customers anywhere in the world. Demonstrators will only be distributed to the stores.....

I have just recieved a mail from Susan from Avalon Pens, confirming that my payment has gone through, and telling me that the model without engravings will be sent to me Monday.

Anyway, during my contact with my local shop (Stelling & Fyldepennedepotet, Copenhagen), I told them about this place and recommended that they create an account here to be able to follow and participate in discussions here. I know that they have customers all over Scandinavia, and that probably some of these customers are users of FPN.

For what it's worth, I have both these pens in stock. I have decided to keep for myself one of the plain ones and sell all the etched. I love the plain. (Except for the black captop--what were they thinking?) It's inked and in my pocket. I'm little tempted by the etched.

I bought both and paid too much. I put the one with the parts description in my curio cabinet and the plain one I filled with Caran d'Arche Sunset (red). It took me a couple of hours to clean and I wish that I had just bought the engraved one. Since it is a Pelikan it writes well but I can't stand the stain so I'm debating what to do with it.

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)
4) Zerobuttons (without etching)

Have you experienced the same staining problems that another user has told about in this thread? Which red ink was the pen filled with in the photos? Do tell.

Not much to say.
My new M800 Clear Demonstrator arrived yesterday morning. I filled it with the new Noodlers "pinstripe" which I thought would be blue but is green; even more surprising is that it seems to be a "bulletproof" ink. Yikes!! In a demonstrator?? I guess I'll find out if it stains sometime soon. The pen writes beautifully. One surprise is that the medium nib is about the same as the fine on my other M800, and the extra fine on my M1000, so my fears of having too wide of a nib for everyday tasks were unfounded. I remain totally happy to have made the purchase.
Best regards, Ken

WHY THE COVER HAVE WORDS?

Is this question posed only to those who can afford to buy one?

If not, then I'll add that I love the etching.

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)
4) Zerobuttons (without etching)
5) Kcat (with etching)

I prefer it with etchings, though my own pen doesn't have them

I would have thought I'd hate the etched labels, but I really like it (at least in the photos). It looks like one of those exploded design views made into something real. Okay, that's kinda incoherent, but you know what I mean? I think I'd like a car like that.

Doug

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)
4) Zerobuttons (without etching)
5) Kcat (with etching)
6) cmenice(with etching)

Definitely with-out the etching! I picked up mine at the Dallas Pen show and haven't had the guts to put ink in it yet. It's so clean and pretty!! Thanks to Drumgools Pen shop for the beautiful pen and great price and for swapping out the medium nib for a fine!!!

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)
4) Zerobuttons (without etching)
5) Kcat (with etching)
6) cmenice(with etching)
7) pakmanpony(without etching)

Would you look at my signature now? I got it today, and inked it immediately. Also immediately emptied and flushed it again, since the Pelikan 4001 Brillant Red was too pale for my tastes. I know there must be more powerful red inks out there.

zerobuttons

If you're looking for stronger red, you might wanna try the Waterman or Shaeffer reds; they're both really red, I mean RED! The Waterman is slightly brighter. From experience, I find them both to be well-behaved inks - no clogging, but not sure about staining. I think most reds would stain sooner or later. If you don't mind red with a hint of magenta, I'd try the burgundy or bordeaux. Also, Sailor Red-Brown is quite nice - a gorgeous browish red that shades like crazy.

I would get one without the etching. I would get tired of looking at the words instead of the beauty of the pen. Does anyone know what material these are made of? Is it acrylic aka plexiglass? Is the 200 made of a different material than the sovereigns?

i actually like the pen with etchings. it is just different... i would love to have that baby!!

Thank you.

1) Glenn-Sc (without etching)
2) KenS (without etching)
3) Bananafish (with etching)
4) Zerobuttons (without etching)
5) Kcat (with etching)
6) cmenice(with etching)
7) pakmanpony(without etching)
8) Rick propas (without etching)