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Rufus
Are the CS Italic nibs crisp Italic, cursive Italic or stub?
SMG
The one you have, that I looked at last weekend, would be a stub oblique in my opinion. It might be closer to a cursive Italic, but it was definitely not a crisp italic.

Cheers,
Sean
Rufus
QUOTE (Rufus @ Aug 30 2008, 04:44 AM) *
Are the CS Italic nibs crisp Italic, cursive Italic or stub?


Let me clarify, the CS Italic nibs I am enquiring about are the factory Italics you can order today.
SMG
wondered that after I responded. not sure, Mary can probably answer the question though.

Cheers.
Sean
Carrie
I think they're officially described as a cursive italic. Going back a few years I asked Martin of the Writing Desk about them because I was considering a pen purchase and he said the nibs were more like a stub. I never did make that purchase, but got my Dandy fitted with an italic fine. Quite smooth, but not as smooth as my other CS nibs and as a leftie I don't get any real noticeable line variation from it. Wait for Mary for the definitive answer.
Richard
QUOTE (Carrie @ Aug 31 2008, 05:31 AM) *
I think they're officially described as a cursive italic.

What they are, in terms of shape and line variation, is almost identical to my stubs. They're distinctly softer in contour than my cursive italics.
QM2
I have a CS Duro Heritage with a factory Fine Italic nib. I would describe the nib on mine as a "weak stub," meaning that there is a bit less line variation than in a typical stub of its size (.8mm, according to specs provided by CS). The pen I have is a very wet writer, which may contribute to this effect.

CharlieB
I have several of the medium italics and one fine italic, and, as Richard says, they are more like stubs. I think they're excellent nibs.
AndyHayes
It's the uncertainty about nibs that is making me hold back on the purchase of a CS.

I would love to be able to try an MI nib before putting down cash. I am having difficulty settling on a pen as well though! I like the CS100 shape, but the Drake looks like a magnificent pen.

I probably just need to get my hands on one for a short period of time and then I would know!
Richard
QUOTE (AndyHayes @ Aug 31 2008, 05:17 PM) *
It's the uncertainty about nibs that is making me hold back on the purchase of a CS.

Buy one of my Pelikan M200 stubs. That's a CS IM nib.

QUOTE (AndyHayes @ Aug 31 2008, 05:17 PM) *
I am having difficulty settling on a pen as well though! I like the CS100 shape, but the Drake looks like a magnificent pen.

I dunno, I rather like the Duro Heritage. It was the first CS that reached out and grabbed me by the aorta and wouldn't let go until I plumped. biggrin.gif



Have I said I'm glad I did go for it? cloud9.gif
Inkquest
On the CS italics I have owned and used the normal side is like a stubby italic, but the flip side is a more crisp italic, very smooth and from what I understand is meant to be used this way. So, you you kinda get the two extremes but not really the middle road cursive italic (well, like one expects a cursive italic to be).

They are some nice nibs for sure.
Rufus
QUOTE (Richard @ Aug 31 2008, 05:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Carrie @ Aug 31 2008, 05:31 AM) *
I think they're officially described as a cursive italic.

What they are, in terms of shape and line variation, is almost identical to my stubs. They're distinctly softer in contour than my cursive italics.


Now that I've acquired an Italic medium from CS and have used it, I agree with Richard that it is more stub-like than cursive Italic-like. Richard's, SMG's and Deb Kinney's medium cursive Italics are more crisp and have more line variation then my CS factory Italic medium; nevertheless, the CS nib is a very pleasant writer and good for everyday writing.
MiniMaupassant
QUOTE (Rufus @ Dec 2 2008, 10:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Richard @ Aug 31 2008, 05:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Carrie @ Aug 31 2008, 05:31 AM) *
I think they're officially described as a cursive italic.

What they are, in terms of shape and line variation, is almost identical to my stubs. They're distinctly softer in contour than my cursive italics.


Now that I've acquired an Italic medium from CS and have used it, I agree with Richard that it is more stub-like than cursive Italic-like. Richard's, SMG's and Deb Kinney's medium cursive Italics are more crisp and have more line variation then my CS factory Italic medium; nevertheless, the CS nib is a very pleasant writer and good for everyday writing.



I would agree with this point of view as well. Great nib for everyday writing, but it's definitely not a crisp cursive.


MM
katim
QUOTE (MiniMaupassant @ Dec 4 2008, 11:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Rufus @ Dec 2 2008, 10:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Richard @ Aug 31 2008, 05:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Carrie @ Aug 31 2008, 05:31 AM) *
I think they're officially described as a cursive italic.

What they are, in terms of shape and line variation, is almost identical to my stubs. They're distinctly softer in contour than my cursive italics.


Now that I've acquired an Italic medium from CS and have used it, I agree with Richard that it is more stub-like than cursive Italic-like. Richard's, SMG's and Deb Kinney's medium cursive Italics are more crisp and have more line variation then my CS factory Italic medium; nevertheless, the CS nib is a very pleasant writer and good for everyday writing.



I would agree with this point of view as well. Great nib for everyday writing, but it's definitely not a crisp cursive.

MM


I have just acquired a CS with a fine italic nib and I also agree with others - it's a nice wet writer, flowing beautifully across the page, but there's next to no line variation until you turn the nib upside down! Then it provides quite a crisp cursive - though, not surprisingly - a little scratchy. I'm still getting used to the pen and my experience may alter as I learn its 'feel'. I also wondered whether it might be a little heavy in the hand (it's a Simpole Pen with the silver overlay), but it doesn't feel either heavy or large, though I certainly wouldn't post the cap on it, which would unbalance it completely.
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