If Nathan's testing it, he can test it on Moleskine....... I'll send him some paper.

As far as the color and name of the ink this thread is concerned about, though:

I don't want dried blood. I don't want maroon. I don't want fuschia. I don't want burgundy or port or wine. What's wrong with just purple, like the title of the thread says? I don't care what it is called, as long as the color is purple and it is bulletproof. People can have fun with naming, but even now it seems it's turning to a more argumentive side with some disagreement. Now, if Nathan decides to put out another bulletproof in another color, I'll most likely end up with it in my collection, but this time around, I'm really hoping for purple.

This isn't an FPN exclusive ink request but a request for a new bulletproof for Nathan's regular line, though the request originated from an FPN member. kookychick made an inquiry with a dream and got a response that more or less said, "get so many requests and you'll see it happen." Works for me. I've been dreaming of a bulletproof purple, too.

So, in my not-so-valuable-or-humble opinion, bring on the 'possum & catfish dance under the moonlight! No Tokyo Rising and no French Decent. No togas, no crowns, no guillotine, no Tower jewels, and no blood. I think Nathan should stick to his insticts with respect to his regular, non-exclusive line of inks. That's one of the reasons I like Nathan's company, is he isn't afraid to have an opinion and speak it. I may not always agree with it, but it isn't my excellent inks company.

Just bulletproof purple. That's all we're asking for. At least, it's all I'm asking for. If it has the "everything-and-the-kitchen-sink" quality, all the better as far as I'm concerned. However, I'd be absolutely thrilled with just a new bulletproof purple.

You say what I wanted to say before I got derailed and became that argumentative person, sorry. My main point was, if we're going to have a bulletproof purple, then yes, I'd be all for it. But lets not put a toga on it unless it is that real tyrian color.

(That'd be a good exclusive for somewhere, though, I have to say. But a regular, business like bulletproof purple would be best for adding to the regular line.)

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a debate, it's not a group project. This is about an ink kookychick wants to commission from Nathan. I'm buying in.

It's not what "we" want, really. I'm helping her make it happen.

If I want something else, I can either mix it or have Nathan make a small batch for me just the same way he's making one for kookychick.

Agreed, it's not a group project. It is a dream for a permanent addition to his line, though. At least, that was my impression. I hope it will happen. If it is just a special mix this time around, then I am so in for 5 bottles. I'll scrape together the cash somewhere. kookychick and I have been on the same page, and she was the one with the guts to forge ahead and get Nathan's attention. I'm so proud of her!!

Is Tulipe Noire considered a purple?

I would say it is in the purple family, yes.

You seem to have skipped over the section comparing different shades of Tyrian:

• Bright Tyrian Purple (Bright Imperial Purple) (Tyrian Pink) (Hex: #B80049) (RGB: 184, 0, 73)
• Medium Tyrian Purple (Medium Imperial Purple) (Tyrian Red) (Hex: #990024) (RGB: 97, 64, 81)
• Tyrian Purple (Imperial Purple) (Hex: #66023C) (RGB: 102, 2, 60)

For my money, when I think of toga borders I think of the one on the bottom, which is a whole lot closer to purple than maroon. The leading theory is that the color comes from double dipping (once with a medium tyrian dye and once with a blue dye from another shellfish). Certainly the mosaic (whether from limitations of the medium or for artistic effect) does not reflect contemporary descriptions of an almost blackish color.

I'm not biased on what the label should have - as long as its interesting and "fun"!

Man, I'm busy for a day, and look what happens!

The bottom line is, whatever Nathan wants to do, he'll do! I begged him for a purpley purple bulletproof ink. I'm not commissioning it--I requested it be a permanent part of his regular distribution, so everyone can enjoy it. While I would also buy a bulletproof dark maroon, I really, really want a bulletproof true purple. Of course, there still might be some disagreement as to what a "true" purple is, but at least this rules out magenta-purple, brownish-purple, reddish-purple, and pinkish-purple.

I don't really care what the label is--I'm much more interested in the ink itself. I would prefer that the label be fun and perhaps a bit edgy, but that's of minor consequence to me.

Thank you, Deirdre and kiavonne for your unwavering support! And thank you to everyone who participated in such a vigorous discussion. I think we can all agree on one thing--that we love our Noodler's!

I'm going to post a poll about some of the different possibilities that are on the table. You can select as many choices as you want, as long as they reflect what you'd be interested in purchasing. I don't know if/how this will affect what Nathan decides to make, but at least he'll have some more quantifiable information about what people want. If enough people would buy more than one of the possibilities, perhaps he'll decide to make multiple new bulletproof purples!

Edit: decided not to muddy the waters by putting in maroon/dried blood/maroon-purple choices in the poll

New here, but although I'm waiting for a bottle of Violet Vote to become available, I'd be in for some bulletproof violet (1 bottle at least). I wouldn't mind it being called Tyrian blue, since the color precedes Marie Antoinette and is named for the city of it's origin. I wouldn't mind a picture of the mollusk that the color originally came from worked somewhere into the image, but rather than copy the exact color of the original dye, my chief concern would be that it flow well in very fine nibs and I would like it to be exactly the color of Kookychick's dreams. It's her passion that created this thread. I wouldn't even mind if it was called Kookychick's royal purple (pending her approval, of course) Afterall, it would be a failure if it didn't meet her desires.

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Ken

How about "The Purple Rose of Cairo". A movie by Woody Allen talking about one women who try to escape from her misery life by go to see one movie "The Purple Rose of Cairo" again and again. She watch the movie so often. Oneday, the film star responses to her dream and jumps out of the screen...

This movie pretty much fit the story here, except this time we know someone's dream will really come true.

I was just perusing the interweb for ink recently, and stumbled across a so-far unreviewed Noodler's ink: Concord Bream. It seems like a fairly vibrant purple and is bulletproof... why haven't I heard of this stuff before? Would this take care of some of our criteria?

Are you sure it's bulletproof? I knew about Concord Bream, but I don't think it is bulletproof. I've seen scans of it, and I would want a little darker. It's listed with the standard inks on Pendemonium's site. It's also not marked bulletproof on Noodler's site. If it was bulletproof, it might be a viable choice.

Hmmm...upon a quick search, I found Concord Bream being mentioned as bulletproof on goldspot.com (but the picture of the bottle is Noodler's Black), but nowhere else. It was my impression that it was one of Noodler's "standard" inks, not bulletproof. It's listed as a "standard" ink on Pendemonium's website, as well. I've also read that it's not as vibrant as it looks in some scans online--it's a pretty, pastel lavenderish-purple. It was described as "ghostly" in this thread, and was called "very muted" in this thread. It seems like a nice color, and if it was truly bulletproof, I would be very likely to try it. But it's not the color I've been longing for--ideally, I'd like something darker/brighter.

One of my favourite movies.
Alejandro

(from IMDB)

I'd be good for a few bottles of a nice purple. Emailed.

Next week should have the swatches to post right here....and an attempt at incorporating many of the label and name ideas.

It is the closest to conventional depth and the furthest from the pastel effect of most eternal colored (non-black) inks yet, as well as being cellulose reactive and repelled by plastic - so it rinses out as easily as Noodler's Black! I still wish ink could be made free - but the choice was between a really rich eternal purple...and a mild "pastel like" purple that cost much less. Is it better to always seek the cutting edge of the best ink possible for the least cost possible....even if a lesser ink would cost less? Hmmm?

I was too attracted to the best, as you'll soon see next week.

Please count me in. I just saw this post this minute!

Thank you so much, Nathan! This sounds fabulous--not as pastel, yet rinsing out as easily as Noodler's Black? And eternal and rich? I can't wait to see the swatches--it sounds like you've really outdone yourself this time!

Thanks again!

This is fantastic news, Nathan! I can't wait to see what you have conjured up! And a true ink magician you are!

And my new LE purple VP is on its way to me, too. Yup, it is indeed a good day!







Hmmm, maybe you should add some kind of kooky chick to the label, too.

Hmmm, maybe you should add some kind of kooky chick to the label, too.
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There is a queen on the label....to the side, a minor panel in a panorama...but it is not, ah - well...conventional or conservative. She is certainly not a Mata Hari - in fact she is in a full ball gown and quite elegant....yet there is a detail that is unusual and that I am certain no other company would ever put upon a product. Many users of Noodler's Inks are authors and artists. I believe they will be the pensters to appreciate the humor, though perhaps not as many members of any European aristocracy would find it as amusing.

Hint: the name is French - with perfect French structure and spelling....just for fun. ;-)

She also liked cake....

I'm excited.

lol. I love it already!

My ultimate inky dream is to get bulletproof (or even waterproof) versions of Navajo Turquoise, Shah's Rose and Yellow so I can use them for CMYK mixing the way Limner did with the standard colours, but I know that's a pipe dream. I could console myself with a bottle of purple ink. It would be nice to have an interesting bulletproof colour. I only have Polar black and Lexington Gray right now.

I sent in my e-mail. Bulletproof isn't important to me but I love purple and you guys ROCK!

I'm behind you all the way....

Oh, man, I can't wait to see this--has a week passed yet?! I'm so excited that the label won't be boring! The French name is perfect--I took French for 7 years in grade school/high school, and love the language!

This kinda reminds me of French class in high school, when we mused whether or not we could get words like "merde" for our car license plates and if the censors would notice....

And thanks for all the support, everyone--this ink is coming to fruition because you wanted this, too!

This is so cool! I sent email for one bottle much earlier - now I am wondering if I can get two!?!

I'm thinking the same thing! This is sounding like a fabulous ink.

Now for the waiting...

I am very much hoping that this ink will become part of Nathan's regular lineup, and that it will be available for a long time to come.

I've been following this thread with great anticipation. Looks like the new ink is about to pop. I'm very excited. Good work, kookychick!

Do we have to email to get this ink? Details please!!

Sounds intruiguing. I look forward to seeing the samples. I hope that it will have the anti-feathering properties of Noodler's Black as well. My main interest in the ink would be as a mixer, to tone down the green in some Noodler's blues (e.g., Navy) and to add a bulletproof element to non-bulletproof colors.

I don't think you need to email to order this ink at this point--originally, we needed 20 people to email to say they wanted this ink in the first place (to justify making it). But there must have been enough demand, since Nathan is making the ink!

I'm hoping it becomes part of Nathan's regular lineup of inks, too! I'm sure Nathan will tell us how to purchase this ink when it gets to that point!

Like Viseguy (and I'm sure many others), I also hope for minimal feathering like Noodler's Black--while I tolerate feathering if I REALLY love the color (and then will mostly use it only on Clairefontaine paper), I'm actually somewhat picky about feathering.

Thanks for the kind words, kudzu!

We may have to trade some feathering for the rest of the ink features Nathan is throwing in. i would expect it will most likely be like his other popular bulletproofs, and we'll see a little feathering, dependent upon our paper choice. I'm set for what he comes up with right now. I'm excited, and I am ready for the ink!

I haven't had any feathering issues with most of his BP inks (even with some that others report having feathering issues), so I'm optimistic! I know this ink is different and unique, but if the other purplish colors I've tried are any indication (maybe not a safe assumption, I realize), then I'm sure it'll be fine! (In my search for a BP purple, I've tried Iraqi Indigo/The Violet Vote, Vanda Miss Joaquim, Lotus Grace, Lermontov, Singapore Sepia, and Mata Hari's Cordial. All nice colors, and I'll still use them, but not exactly "it"! ) And I mostly use Clairefontaine paper for journaling, so that controls most inks anyway!

I'm excited, too! This ink sounds fantastic!

I stumbled across this thread a little later than most, but I've got to say I'm very interested!! Lately, I seem to be in a purple mood and the idea of a bulletproof purple that kookychick asked for and Nathan described is really exciting. My first few ecounters with Noodler's inks left me a little unsatisfied, but I've recently found a few beautifully-behaving Noodler's inks that I absolutely love.

Plus, this is the first time in four years that I'll have to keep a paper gradebook to go along with my computer grade and attendence records. Not that I don't trust my students - or my own clumsy self!! - but it's very reassuring to know that I have permanent inks in lots of colors that I can use with my official documents. When I need to make a marginal note or highlight something important, it's nice to have something more interesting than black or blue to turn to.

I can't wait to see some samples, but either way, I'll take a bottle!!

All the best,
Mike

I've been following this thread for a while and I've held off on committing to getting some of this ink when it comes out. Finances, and already having more ink than I'll use in my remaining lifetime, are factors.

But if it's not too pricey I might well go for some. I comment just in case anyone was wondering if there might be one more person who'd like an ink like this. And over time, if this became an ink offered for sale on a regular basis, I'm sure I'd weaken if it were still around and buy some.

*fidgets*

I would love to see what comes of this. I heart purple! I like the idea of a catfish donning a royal purple cloak wielding a golden scepter.

I just emailed. The folks replied that this must be purchased from The Fountain Pen Network. So I guess it's a done deal. I just need to find the link to order it.

Uh, better make sure they understand what the email is about. FPN does have 3 exclusive inks that must be purchased through FPN. This new ink hasn't been finalized yet by Nathan yet, and I believe it will be an ink available to anyone. If anyone had an exclusive on this one, I'd say it would be kookychick, but I believe your email was probably misunderstood by whomever received it at Noodler's. The email was a campaign to say, "yes I would be interested in this ink," to see if Nathan would create a new purple bulletproof. It isn't an FPN exclusive, though the ideas flowed from the contributors on these forums.

Thanks! I will email them again.

Has there been any update on this? I can't wait to see the samples!

I just saw this thread and I'm curious too!!

Same here, I normally use a mix of Noodlers to get a nice purple that is also bulletproof, I would love to see a pre-made bulletproof purple that looks hopefully even better.

Sure could use this ink tonight!

Just bumping the thread to see if there's any new updates! I'm currently experimenting with a 50/50 mix of Iraqi Indigo and Vanda Miss Joaquim that's pretty nice. As soon as I become un-buried with schoolwork (probably not for another month, though ), I'll post a scan!

Would like to try this myself

Bumpety-bump! Sign me up for a bottle whenever this stuff starts to ship!